Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-stable-privacy-addresses (Respond by Aug 11, 2015)

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Mon, 10 August 2015 08:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] IETF-93 Follow Up - draft-ietf-dhc-stable-privacy-addresses (Respond by Aug 11, 2015)
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On 08/10/2015 10:30 AM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com
> <mailto:fgont@si6networks.com>> wrote:
> 
>     > Keep in mind that WG consensus is not something set in stone. People
>     > change their minds over time. More analysis and better understanding of
>     > a problem is available over time. New solutions are being proposed.
>     > These all influence people decisions. Work that used to be appealing may
>     > lose its appeal over time. Successful adoption call answers the question
>     > whether a WG is willing to work on something, not a promise to publish
>     > the draft no matter what. Drafts can be abandoned at any stage. It may
>     > be disappointing when it happens, but it happens nevertheless.
> 
>     FWIW, I've love to see a "please state whether you want this I-D to be
>     dropped, and state the reasons for dloing so"..
> 
> Those statements are already in the list archives. They are also, no
> doubt, part of the reason why the chairs chose to proceed as they did,
> by asking the "do you want to drop this document" question in the room,
> registering strong consensus (and I agree - I was there and it seemed
> very strong to me), and taking that question to the mailing list.

Can you please point the specific email? So far your technical comments
(other than "I don't think this brings much value") have been, IMO,
bogus. (e.g. our discussion of how this might collide with SLAAC).

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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