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Re: [dispatch] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-hardie-dispatch-rfc3405-update-03

Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Thu, 03 September 2020 15:50 UTC

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> On Sep 3, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> wrote:
> 
> >We don’t want to open things up a bit.
>  
> I am trying to open up an standard that is closed so tight that nobody has used in almost twenty years.  As best I can tell, all those who are opposing me have never, and will most likely never have any interest in presenting a new uri for that registry.  That fact should give my opinion at least equal weight in this debate.
> 

There have been new permanent registrations as recently as 2018. That’s demonstrably more open that the original “IETF Tree” requirement, which was impossible to meet.

Ben.

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