Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-crocker-dmarc-author-00 ?

Dotzero <dotzero@gmail.com> Thu, 13 August 2020 21:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-crocker-dmarc-author-00 ?
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 5:43 PM Kurt Andersen (b) <kboth@drkurt.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 2:33 PM Doug Foster <fosterd=
> 40bayviewphysicians.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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>> The current DMARC architecture supports authorizing a vendor to mail on
>> behalf of their clients if the client includes them in their SPF policy or
>> delegates a DKIM scope to them and they use it.
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>> I agree that SPF is too limiting (including hard limits on complexity),
>> and DKIM is too complex for an uncooperative vendor.
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>> In most cases, a solution would be a controlled third-party signature
>> authorization along the lines of RFC 6541.
>>
>> The client would configure the authorization in his own DNS and the and
>> the vendor would only need to sign with their own DKIM signature.
>>
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> If "DKIM is too complex for [this] uncooperative vendor", why would having
> the "vendor...sign with...DKIM" be workable?
>

Wrong answer. If the vendor is uncooperative then fire the vendor. 4-5
years ago it was difficult to find vendors who were willing to deal with
DKIM and able to do a good job in implementing. The common mantra was "how
does this fit into my business model". These days I would consider it table
stakes.

Michael Hammer

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