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Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-crocker-dmarc-author-00 ?

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Sat, 15 August 2020 17:57 UTC

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On 8/12/2020 1:09 PM, John Levine wrote:
> Let's work on your Sender draft which doesn't try to change what MUAs display.


and which won't fully fix the user-level problems, because... legacy DMARC.

Also, I'm sorry to hear that the wg isn't capable of discussing two 
drafts at the same time.

d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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