Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields

Dave Crocker <dcrocker@gmail.com> Sun, 07 June 2020 23:17 UTC

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To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, dmarc@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC alignment conflicts with RFC 5322 on the use of the From and Sender header fields
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On 6/7/2020 2:40 PM, John Levine wrote:
> I believe the real question is*whether*  to show trust data to users
> and the consensus seems to be don't bother, it only confuses them.


It's not that it 'seems to be'. It isn't nearly that soft.

It is that there have been multiple efforts over the years and none has 
demonstrated efficacy.

Anyone claiming the contrary needs to provide objective data to 
substantiate a claim of efficacy.

Adding a capability or relying one carries an affirmative obligation to 
provide a basis for knowing that the cost is justified. So far, there 
isn't one, for end-user trust notifications.


d/

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Dave Crocker
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