Re: [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation: draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02

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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Mingui Zhang [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Envoyé : mercredi 9 décembre 2015 10:32
> À : SEITE Pierrick IMT/OLN; [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Cc : [e-mail]
> Objet : RE: [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation: draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-
> 02
> 
> Hi Pierrick,
> 
> > Do you mean that using DSL and LTE together is a BBF trademark? ...
> > come on. :-).. anyway, I don't care about using another example... why
> > not WiFi and LTE... is it ok? Is there any SDO which claims exclusivity on this
> use-case ;-) ?
> 
> :-)
> 
> I would say "exclusivity" is exaggerated. The fact is that people already have that
> background knowledge so that they can easily get the impression that this is
> talking about the BBF use case. Also, the older versions did refer to WT-348 use
> case.
> 
> There are alternative examples, as you've already suggested, that can be used in
> the placeholder. It would be easier to use them.
> 

Ok, no problem. 

> Thanks,
> Mingui
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 5:02 PM
> > To: Mingui Zhang; [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: RE: [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation:
> > draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Mingui Zhang [mailto:[e-mail]] Envoyé : mercredi
> > > 9 décembre 2015 03:54 À : [e-mail]; SEITE Pierrick
> > > IMT/OLN; [e-mail] Cc : [e-mail] Objet : RE:
> > > [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation:
> > > draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-
> > > 02
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am not alone who find Figure 1 is misleading. Lots of people
> > > around know 'DSL+LTE' is a peculiar use case of BBF WT-348.
> >
> > Do you mean that using DSL and LTE together is a BBF trademark? ...
> > come on. :-).. anyway, I don't care about using another example... why
> > not WiFi and LTE... is it ok? Is there any SDO which claims exclusivity on this
> use-case ;-) ?
> >
> > Now that the draft intends to
> > > provide a generic protocol extension for mobility management
> > > systems, please drop that use case.
> > >
> > > Looking at the structure of the doc, Figure 1 is obviously a good
> > > position to give a generic reference model rather than a specific
> > > example, not to mention a misleading one.
> > >
> > > In the text,
> > >    " Flow-1,2 and 3 are distributed either on
> > >    Tunnel-1 (over LTE) or Tunnel-2 (ober DSL), while Flow-4 is spread on
> > >    both Tunnel-1 and 2. "
> > > s/ober/over/
> > > So, this indicates the doc aims to support both per-flow and
> > > per-packet traffic distribution. This point could be explicitly stated.
> > >
> >
> > It is stated on section 3.2. but, you are right, it is maybe worth to
> > clarify this in the introduction as well.
> >
> >
> > > In the figure,
> > > s/Flow0=-4/ Flow-4 /
> > >
> > > I guess authors would produce an updated version to address the
> > > issues we've found.
> > >
> >
> > Yes of course. Thanks for the comments.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mingui
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 6:06 PM
> > > > To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> > > > Cc: [e-mail]
> > > > Subject: RE: [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation:
> > > > draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02
> > > >
> > > > Hi Pierrick,
> > > > Thank you for the clarification!
> > > > May I recommend then to exchange also the multiple occurrences of
> > > > RG in the draft text by - why not MAG?
> > > >
> > > > Your approach which I think of as mainly opting towards future
> > > > mobility management systems with multiple connections (e.g.
> > > > backhauling of vehicular/nomadic access nodes or MRs) otherwise
> > > > might be interpreted in a misleading direction ...
> > > >
> > > > Having said this I also would appreciate to replace the expression
> > > > 'hybrid' by 'multi-link' or 'multi-connected'. For an BBF-related
> > > > aggregated access bundling often called 'hybrid access' (see e.g.
> > > > BANANA activity) there are - as Mingui already pointed out - other
> > > > solution proposals available which consider in detail the specific
> > > > existing
> > gaps.
> > > >
> > > > IMHO I would also opting to replace the use case DSL+LTE by a more
> > > > general one e.g. multiple wireless and cellular links as WiFi+LTE
> > > > or LTE(provided by operator x) + LTE(provided by operator y) or
> > > > even
> > > > LTE+future
> > > 5G air interface ...
> > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot!
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Dirk
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dmm [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > Sent: Freitag, 4. Dezember 2015 12:07
> > > > To: Alexandre Petrescu; dmm
> > > > Subject: Re: [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation:
> > > > draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02
> > > >
> > > > Good point... moreover, "rg" means nothing here...
> > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : dmm [mailto:[e-mail]] De la part de Alexandre
> > > > > Petrescu Envoyé : vendredi 4 décembre 2015 12:02 À : dmm Objet : Re:
> > > > > [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation:
> > > > > draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-
> > > > > 02
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I support adoption.
> > > > >
> > > > > One little note: the -rg- in filename makes think of Research Group.
> > > > > It would make sense to change the filename to avoid the use of
> > > > > -rg-, if it's not
> > > > too complicated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 25/11/2015 17:22, Dapeng Liu a écrit :
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In IETF94, we initiated the call for adoption for the draft:
> > > > > > draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02
> > > > > > <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02>:
> > > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02
> > > > > > Seems have got sufficient support during the meeting. We'd
> > > > > > like to confirm the call for adoption in the mailing list for 2 weeks.
> > > > > > Please send your opinion and comments to the list before December 9.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > ------
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > Dapeng&Jouni
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > Dapeng Liu
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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