Re: [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation: draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02

Hi,

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Mingui Zhang [mailto:zhangmingui@huawei.com]
> Envoyé : mercredi 9 décembre 2015 03:54
> À : Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de; SEITE Pierrick IMT/OLN; dmm@ietf.org
> Cc : alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com
> Objet : RE: [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation: draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-
> 02
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am not alone who find Figure 1 is misleading. Lots of people around know
> 'DSL+LTE' is a peculiar use case of BBF WT-348. 

Do you mean that using DSL and LTE together is a BBF trademark? ... come on. :-).. anyway, I don't care about using another example... why not WiFi and LTE... is it ok? Is there any SDO which claims exclusivity on this use-case ;-) ?

Now that the draft intends to
> provide a generic protocol extension for mobility management systems, please
> drop that use case.
> 
> Looking at the structure of the doc, Figure 1 is obviously a good position to give a
> generic reference model rather than a specific example, not to mention a
> misleading one.
> 
> In the text,
>    " Flow-1,2 and 3 are distributed either on
>    Tunnel-1 (over LTE) or Tunnel-2 (ober DSL), while Flow-4 is spread on
>    both Tunnel-1 and 2. "
> s/ober/over/
> So, this indicates the doc aims to support both per-flow and per-packet traffic
> distribution. This point could be explicitly stated.
> 

It is stated on section 3.2. but, you are right, it is maybe worth to clarify this in the introduction as well.

> In the figure,
> s/Flow0=-4/ Flow-4 /
> 
> I guess authors would produce an updated version to address the issues we've
> found.
> 

Yes of course. Thanks for the comments.

> Thanks,
> Mingui
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de [mailto:Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 6:06 PM
> > To: pierrick.seite@orange.com; dmm@ietf.org
> > Cc: alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com
> > Subject: RE: [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation:
> > draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02
> >
> > Hi Pierrick,
> > Thank you for the clarification!
> > May I recommend then to exchange also the multiple occurrences of RG
> > in the draft text by - why not MAG?
> >
> > Your approach which I think of as mainly opting towards future
> > mobility management systems with multiple connections (e.g.
> > backhauling of vehicular/nomadic access nodes or MRs) otherwise might
> > be interpreted in a misleading direction ...
> >
> > Having said this I also would appreciate to replace the expression
> > 'hybrid' by 'multi-link' or 'multi-connected'. For an BBF-related
> > aggregated access bundling often called 'hybrid access' (see e.g.
> > BANANA activity) there are - as Mingui already pointed out - other
> > solution proposals available which consider in detail the specific existing gaps.
> >
> > IMHO I would also opting to replace the use case DSL+LTE by a more
> > general one e.g. multiple wireless and cellular links as WiFi+LTE or
> > LTE(provided by operator x) + LTE(provided by operator y) or even LTE+future
> 5G air interface ...
> > ;-)
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dirk
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> > pierrick.seite@orange.com
> > Sent: Freitag, 4. Dezember 2015 12:07
> > To: Alexandre Petrescu; dmm
> > Subject: Re: [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation:
> > draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02
> >
> > Good point... moreover, "rg" means nothing here...
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Alexandre
> > > Petrescu Envoyé : vendredi 4 décembre 2015 12:02 À : dmm Objet : Re:
> > > [DMM] Call for adoption confirmation:
> > > draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-
> > > 02
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I support adoption.
> > >
> > > One little note: the -rg- in filename makes think of Research Group.
> > > It would make sense to change the filename to avoid the use of -rg-,
> > > if it's not
> > too complicated.
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > Le 25/11/2015 17:22, Dapeng Liu a écrit :
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > In IETF94, we initiated the call for adoption for the draft:
> > > > draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02
> > > > <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02>:
> > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seite-dmm-rg-multihoming-02
> > > > Seems have got sufficient support during the meeting. We'd like to
> > > > confirm the call for adoption in the mailing list for 2 weeks.
> > > > Please send your opinion and comments to the list before December 9.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > ------
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Dapeng&Jouni
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > ------
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Dapeng Liu
> > > >
> > > >
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