Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-vandergaast-edns-client-subnet-00
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 31 August 2011 15:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-vandergaast-edns-client-subnet-00
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On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 02:43:59PM +0100, Wilmer van der Gaast wrote: > >> Which draft are you reading here exactly? > >> >> For a new option code, only expert review will be required: "Expert >> Review is required for allocation of an EDNS Option Code." > > Oh, phew, and stupid me. I was really really surprised when I > (thought I) saw what I did when I checked it earlier. That'll teach > me to do such readings in a hurry. > > You're quite right. And (again no hat) expert review is, IMO, better > than RFC required, but I'd still prefer FCFS. > > A > I think FCFS works fine for unbounded spaces, but I'm nervous about a blended model where there are easy registrations up until exhaustion looks likely, then it gets restricted. We have lots of evidence that this causes grumpiness in the IP allocation side of the house. Expert review, with clear instructions to reviewer (e.g. that this is not duplicate functionality) seems more likely to get what you want. The trick is in the clear instructions to the reviewer, especially when the reviewer is actually a list with changing membership.... regards, TEd
- [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-vand… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Wilmer van der Gaast
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Alex Bligh
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Colm MacCárthaigh
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Colm MacCárthaigh
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Matthew Dempsky
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Matt McCutchen
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Alex Bligh
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Alex Bligh
- [dnsext] a lightweight process for assigning EDNS… Jim Reid
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… SM
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] a lightweight process for assigning … Livingood, Jason
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Wilmer van der Gaast
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Wilmer van der Gaast
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Wilmer van der Gaast
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Alex Bligh
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Marc Lampo
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Jaidev Sridhar
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dnsext] a lightweight process for assigning … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dnsext] a lightweight process for assigning … Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [dnsext] a lightweight process for assigning … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Wilmer van der Gaast
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Wilmer van der Gaast
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… SM
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Martin Barry
- [dnsext] Address privacy (was Re: afasterinternet… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Marc Lampo
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Florian Weimer
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] Address privacy (was Re: afasterinte… SM
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Martin Barry
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… bmanning
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dnsext] Address privacy (was Re: afasterinte… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-… Wilmer van der Gaast
- Re: [dnsext] Address privacy (was Re: afasterinte… SM