Re: [dnsext] afasterinternet.com trial and draft-vandergaast-edns-client-subnet-00

Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> Tue, 06 September 2011 22:25 UTC

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Then let them break.

If people are cretinous to make that type of mistake then they are going to
see stuff break all over.


Google can fix this in a week. All they need to do is to advertise a random
EDNS0 code and the problem will go away pronto.

Seriously, this was intended to be the extension mechanism for DNS . People
should have known.


On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Florian Weimer <fweimer@bfk.de> wrote:

> * Matt McCutchen:
>
> > From the peanut gallery, having a private use range seems like a
> > no-brainer.
>
> Some EDNS0 server-side implementations treat unknown option codes as
> hard errors.  I'm not sure how widespread they are (but I believe at
> least one of them is still under security support).  If widespread, it
> would make it difficult to define new option codes and make them work.
> A private use range implies an implicit promise that you can actually
> use it for experiments, and this may not be the case here.
>
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