Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 07 October 2016 23:13 UTC

Return-Path: <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86215129455 for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 16:13:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.72
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.72 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bU4GKtis94Ju for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 16:13:03 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-qt0-f170.google.com (mail-qt0-f170.google.com [209.85.216.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B71351293D6 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 16:13:03 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-qt0-f170.google.com with SMTP id m5so27541356qtb.3 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 16:13:03 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cs4CUvNiY27UsmPsIwfp5faZrCJytwjbeexrNERQmmk=; b=we512FAIeSqbmNRxI4/IcJGFiMg+oaenxwdppcM5Hv/MElocgr5UmHSVxLR/zM8yGD h4ndsjDZtCYwWsA4/i8VYvgHxHKc+UYzH1SlqL8Xx6A5lw4pd1mXbdXU+97CofHcXehl gohP3ubLz5nliXIAPRyywkBUqN6o2CPDTcwVsSltF6TQqVa2msAsiBfXDoWJHtGS4ZtF 8QY6vkNQYdbMmlwrMmSa+nZcmVfyfqY+cgtsrQmg52CwKQpXcgIChj3Kzy+UIDWso+I5 jlNJWUy10A01G3KgPpUWFyayssFh5Yp6Qy4UQKUmPKu9bGuLxPzQrdV9VghmdjrfnGKT gtzA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cs4CUvNiY27UsmPsIwfp5faZrCJytwjbeexrNERQmmk=; b=h3oCf1vXBdUTdOCpbf4SB7Q/36MAqKZ/AN3DICVI4w6UxgGdOJZe5It+v4kloixCGm oy8x9s03iIgM+ElhtHFm6zUDcxkYsH4wRvcQ7LCeN0LPVqwNknE6zOoZ0ew7putK9ZGa p5hfDp4aGul0as0eW4z1akeG+ju31tTBZ3vCFXIapij/L/wtgoztxnzyRR8VYVYHPU0p 3cYVbRyXbJPPPuZ2At4ZfhnW2CYEzkJ71pN/akHYJkoHdTuhNYSbK5W0yUVQq5uKwU8p YHmdQ3zRmdsonD9j4n6BuY7+MxhPfZghCo4sNl8g/xkjdmCZ+ZNO6COVTdF/uSOmlUTZ wtaA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmjuRwA2wxP6Gl74ZyDkSnRE1x2IJd7m3WKAuWQ/rwmSZRKlv50mNBITYI8H1FJyQ==
X-Received: by 10.200.47.169 with SMTP id l38mr22024146qta.78.1475881922181; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 16:12:02 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from twicinski-ltm1.internal.salesforce.com ([204.14.236.152]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k48sm3428563qtc.12.2016.10.07.16.12.00 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Oct 2016 16:12:01 -0700 (PDT)
To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
References: <40d5f4b1-3019-7f8a-ecc0-2f4d13e3eadf@gmail.com> <CAJE_bqeEBSrFaxEVGhKbt5LFqfe_QdoQQ1u4h9r03ZB3pJ4yzg@mail.gmail.com> <CAHw9_iJDfKK3BPKw5vRc4MBJJELUceSWO4fp97gZjAuB3PZJNg@mail.gmail.com> <CAJE_bqcK_pu4eWkk80ALOeAkCuTV_AoMisFY04q2P6nmZTmGvw@mail.gmail.com> <4ef44e6e-441d-60e5-5f39-3a47b2ef6df5@gmail.com> <CAHw9_iLmrVMaQHfe4QS+T_wAeo+307OCFAhZ96ULRtKV1gGSnQ@mail.gmail.com>
From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <99e53503-ae36-82db-7231-f24c2430e50e@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 19:11:57 -0400
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <CAHw9_iLmrVMaQHfe4QS+T_wAeo+307OCFAhZ96ULRtKV1gGSnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/Afl7MdAvYq5ZRmjmmdSgRtaZL6I>
Cc: dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 23:13:05 -0000


On 10/7/16 7:07 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:
> DONE.
> I now have:
> "Use of NSEC / NSEC3 resource records without DNSSEC validation may
> create serious security issues, and so this technique requires DNSSEC
> validation."
>
> I could just drop this sentence, but someone (Stephane?) wanted
> reinforcement that validation is needed.

I can't find the reference but I remember folks asking to keep it in.

I honestly feel if we took it out, during the IESG review cycle, we 
would be asked to put it back in

tim