Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call

神明達哉 <jinmei@wide.ad.jp> Tue, 04 October 2016 16:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call
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At Tue, 4 Oct 2016 14:06:54 +0200,
Matthijs Mekking <matthijs@pletterpet.nl> wrote:

> 2. In addition to the first point, I don't think it is appropriate to
> use RFC 2119 keywords to dictate name server configuration. Mentioning
> it would be useful to have configuration options for enabling and
> disabling this functionality seems okay, but drop the RFC 2119 formalities.

I don't have a strong opinion on your suggestion (dropping RFC2119
keywords for configuration) itself.  But I thought this type of text
was pretty common in RFCs.  A quick google pointed to section 4.2.3.6
of RFC1122:

            This interval MUST be
            configurable and MUST default to no less than two hours.

I believe there are more recent precedents, too.  So the draft text
didn't necessarily look inappropriate to me (whether the requirement
level is appropriate is a different question).

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JINMEI, Tatuya