Re: [DNSOP] On .ZZ

Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na> Fri, 22 November 2019 10:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] On .ZZ
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Bill,

ISO has new draft out as part of their regular maintenance cycle which
states

	[...]  In addition exactly 42 alpha-2 code elements are not used in
	the ISO 3166, AA, QM to QZ, XA to XZ, ZZ. This rule may change in
	the future.  [...]

and then references this

	If users need code elements to represent country names not included
	in this part of ISO 3166, the series of letters AA, QM to QZ, XA to
	XZ, and ZZ [...] are available.

I read that to mean that a .ZZ (or rather any of the 42 possibles) would
be safe to use in our context.

If the rule were to change I would however speculate that the wishes of
the government concerned might prevail over the wishes of ICANN.

Whether this all is safe enough to write a standard, I don't know.


el


On 22/11/2019 10:26, Bill Woodcock wrote:
> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:20 AM, Shane Kerr <shane@time-travellers.org>
> wrote: 
>> 
>> "User-assigned codes - If users need code elements to represent
>> country names not included in ISO 3166-1, the series of letters AA,
>> QM to QZ, XA to XZ, and ZZ, and the series AAA to AAZ, QMA to QZZ,
>> XAA to XZZ, and ZZA to ZZZ respectively, and the series of numbers
>> 900 to 999 are available.  NOTE: Please be advised that the above
>> series of codes are not universal, those code elements are not
>> compatible between different entities."
>>
>> So the intention of the ISO at least is that these codes are used by
>> users.  (I'm not sure what the scary warning means.)  Certainly I
>> have made heavy use of .Q* and .X* in my own testing, with the
>> assumption that these would never be assigned (and yes, there is
>> .TEST but sometimes you need more than one one TLD).
> 
> Right.  And in fact, “unassigned” ISO codes _do_ get used, for places
> like Kosovo, that are in a state of disputed or partially-recognized
> countryhood, and ranges that are reserved for user use really should
> be left for that use, because they do in fact get used by users, so
> any centrally-coordinated use will run afoul of that.
> 
> Again, this is an argument from principle rather than an argument
> based on the specific case at hand.  I just think that we have a
> well-established precedent that all two-letter TLDs are derived from
> ISO 3166 Alpha-2, and it’s bad form to cross back over and start
> poaching in their territory.
> 
>                                 -Bill

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