Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only is still not useful
Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> Sun, 07 March 2021 08:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only is still not useful
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> On Nov 3, 2020, at 8:19 PM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > > I grepped through the downloaded contracted zone files for signed A > and AAAA records and found over 32,000 of them in over 200 TLDs. The > list of TLDs and counts are below, or you can find the whole set at > https://www.iecc.com/signedglue.txt Perhaps the count could be broadened? That is, a count of RRSIGs for all *non-apex* RRtypes other than DS, NSEC or NSEC3? In a delegation-only zone one would generally not expect to find much besides NS, DS and RRSIG and NSEC(3) RRs, with the NS RRs and glue A RRs unsigned. [ If the zone is signed via BIND, one might also find some signatures for TYPE65534. ] For a somewhat more complete picture, below you'll find John Levine's data augmented with recent delegation counts for all the CZDS zones including the ones not listed him, where presumably the count of stray non-glue address records was zero. For example, for .biz, in addition to the two signed non-apex A records, there are also three internal bookkeeping records: _nicname._tcp.biz. srv 0 0 43 whois.nic.biz. whois.biz. cname whois.nic.biz. www.whois.biz. cname whois.nic.biz. -- Viktor. non-deleg zone size name --------- --------- ---- 0 3 aaa 0 4 aarp 0 1 abarth 0 37 abb 0 252 abbott 0 31 abbvie 0 9 abc 0 4 able 1 556 abogado 0 445 abudhabi 0 43853 academy 0 1 accenture 0 1548 accountant 0 1509 accountants 0 339 aco 0 2215 actor 0 5 adac 0 2 ads 0 8132 adult 1 4 aeg 0 7 aetna 1 1 afamilycompany 0 88 afl 0 28950 africa 0 1 agakhan 0 73905 agency 0 48 aig 0 3 airbus 0 733 airforce 0 1 airtel 0 1 akdn 0 1 alfaromeo 0 1 alibaba 0 1 alipay 0 1282 allfinanz 0 21 allstate 0 1 ally 0 2414 alsace 0 1 alstom 1 1 amazon 0 4 americanexpress 0 1 americanfamily 0 7 amex 0 9 amfam 0 3 amica 0 23530 amsterdam 0 3 analytics 0 1 android 0 1 anquan 0 28 anz 1 1 aol 0 3823 apartments 0 714968 app 0 27 apple 0 35 aquarelle 2 1 arab 0 3 aramco 0 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- Re: [DNSOP] Questions on draft-ietf-dnsop-delegat… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Questions on draft-ietf-dnsop-delegat… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only is s… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only is s… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only is s… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only is s… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only is s… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only is s… John R Levine