Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Fri, 05 June 2020 17:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt
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On Friday, 5 June 2020 17:37:56 UTC Wessels, Duane wrote:
> ...
> 
> There is also the question of in-domain vs sibling-domain glue.  RFC 8499
> (Terminology) notes that "Glue records for sibling domains are allowed, but
> not necessary."  Should in-domain glue take priority over sibling-domain
> glue?  Can sibling-domain glue be omitted even if it would fit?

yes, and yes. and if truncation occurs after all in-domain glue has been 
added, then the TC bit need not be set. we should not force a retry over TCP 
to get nonessential data (which is available by means other than a referral.)

-- 
Paul