Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

Mukund Sivaraman <> Sat, 04 July 2020 01:44 UTC

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On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:19:48PM -0400, John R Levine wrote:
> > Uh, no. The TC flag means "something didn't fit".
> > It is not restricted to glue, which is only in the additional section.
> > TC can also be set if something from the authority section didn't fit, or
> > if something didn't fit in the answer section.
> > (Obviously it would be the first section where something didn't fit that
> > matters.)
> Well there's a question.  Is there any DNS software that will keeps adding
> new sections to a truncated answer, e.g., a partial authority section but it
> has some additional records anyway.  Seems unlikely but I honestly don't
> know.

Pedantically, yes. OPT and TSIG RRs are added by some implementations
when TC=1, and they may delete answer and authority sections (fully or
in part) if necessary to make room for OPT and TSIG.

> In any event this whols plan still seems way overcomplicated.  In my simple
> world, you can tell that an answer is a referral because it has an empty
> answer section and an non-empty authority section.  A useful referral has some
> NS records in the authority section.

The DNS protocol seems to have jumped the shark. It's becoming more and
more of a rat's nest.