Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04

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Subject: Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04
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Hi Yuhei, 

One quick comment about: 

==
            "attack-description": "DNS amplification Attack: This attack is a type of reflection attack in which attackers spoofes a target's IP address. The attackers abuses vulnerbilities in DNS servers to turn small queries into larger payloads."
==

and 

==
            "attack-description":"NTP amplification Attack: This attack is a type of reflection attack in which attackers spoofes a target's IP address. The attackers abuses vulnerbilities in NTP servers to turn small queries into larger payloads."
==

Please note that the telemetry spec says the following:

   When conveying attack details in DOTS telemetry messages (Sections
   8.2, 8.3, and 9), DOTS agents MUST NOT include the 'attack-
   description' attribute unless the corresponding attack mapping
   details were not previously shared with the peer DOTS agent.

So, the text should explain why "attack-description" attributes are present in the example. 

You may consider removing them but add some text to recall the attack mapping over the data channel. 

Thank you. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Dots <dots-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de H Y
> Envoyé : vendredi 11 février 2022 05:16
> À : dots@ietf.org
> Cc : dots-chairs@ietf.org; Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net>;
> BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>; draft-ietf-
> dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> We modified some nits and upload as 05. We will add some description to
> clarify our use cases.
> 
> Comments are welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
> Yuhei
> 
> 2022年2月9日(水) 23:34 H Y <yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi Med,
> >
> > Thank you for your comments and suggestions.
> >
> > I will revise the draft in a few days.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Yuhei
> >
> > 2022年2月9日(水) 22:59 <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>:
> > >
> > > Hi Valery, all,
> > >
> > > I support advancing this document, but I think a revised version is
> needed.
> > >
> > > FWIW, some comments and suggestions can be found at:
> > > * pdf:
> > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/mast
> > > er/draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04-rev%20Med.pdf
> > > * doc:
> > > https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-ie
> > > tf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04-rev%20Med.doc
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Med
> > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : Dots <dots-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Valery Smyslov
> > > > Envoyé : mercredi 9 février 2022 12:28 À : dots@ietf.org Cc :
> > > > dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org
> > > > Objet : [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > this message starts a two-week working group last call for
> > > > draft-ietf- dots-telemetry-use-cases-04.
> > > > The WGLC will end on Thursday, February 24. Please, review the
> > > > draft and send your comments to the mailing list.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Frank & Valery.
> > > >
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