Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04

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Subject: Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04
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Hi Med, All

I submitted the latest version 08. I think all Med's comments were addressed.

Comments are welcome.

Thanks,
Yuhei

2022年2月16日(水) 18:24 Meiling Chen <chenmeiling@chinamobile.com>:
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> Hi Med,
> Thank you, the remaining yuuhei will be updated on Friday.
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> Best,
> Meiling
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>
> From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
> Date: 2022-02-15 21:02
> To: Meiling Chen; H Y; dots
> CC: dots-chairs; Valery Smyslov; draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04
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> Hi Meiling, all,
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> Thank you for these updates.
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> It seems that the same “start-time” is used in many example. Please check that to see if more realistic examples (with distinct time starts) can be considered.
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> The draft has some notes, e.g., “[Note: An example of total ..”. I understand that some examples are under preparation.
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> The latest version removed some attributes such as “src_ip”, but I still see “dst-ip”. You can clarify the meaning/type of this attribute.
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> Thank you.
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> Cheers,
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> Med
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> De : Meiling Chen <chenmeiling@chinamobile.com>
> Envoyé : mardi 15 février 2022 08:27
> À : H Y <yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com>; BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>; dots <dots@ietf.org>
> Cc : dots-chairs <dots-chairs@ietf.org>; Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net>; draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04
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> Hi all,
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> Thank you for Med's comments, I have updated the draft to 07.
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> Name: draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases
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> Revision: 07
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> Title: Use Cases for DDoS Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) Telemetry
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> Document date: 2022-02-15
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> Group: dots
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> Pages: 27
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> URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-07.txt
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> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases/
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> Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases
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> Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-07
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>
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> From: H Y
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> Date: 2022-02-11 16:00
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> To: Mohamed Boucadair; dots@ietf.org
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> CC: dots-chairs@ietf.org; Valery Smyslov; draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org
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> Subject: Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04
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> Hi Med, All,
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>
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> I updated the draft and submitted it as 06.
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> >You may consider removing them but add some text to recall the attack mapping over the data channel.
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> I removed the "attack-description" in signal channel but add some
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> mapping in data channel.
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> Thanks,
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> Yuhei
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> 2022年2月11日(金) 16:40 H Y <yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com>:
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> >
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> > Hi Med,
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> >
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> > I got it. I misunderstood the way to use "attack-description".
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> >
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> > >You may consider removing them but add some text to recall the attack mapping over the data channel.
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> > I will remove the "attack-description".
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> >
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> > Thanks,
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> > Yuhei
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> >
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> > 2022年2月11日(金) 15:49 <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>:
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> > >
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> > > Hi Yuhei,
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> > >
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> > > One quick comment about:
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> > >
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> > > ==
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> > >             "attack-description": "DNS amplification Attack: This attack is a type of reflection attack in which attackers spoofes a target's IP address. The attackers abuses vulnerbilities in DNS servers to turn small queries into larger payloads."
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> > > ==
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> > >
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> > > and
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> > >
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> > > ==
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> > >             "attack-description":"NTP amplification Attack: This attack is a type of reflection attack in which attackers spoofes a target's IP address. The attackers abuses vulnerbilities in NTP servers to turn small queries into larger payloads."
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> > > ==
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> > >
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> > > Please note that the telemetry spec says the following:
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> > >
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> > >    When conveying attack details in DOTS telemetry messages (Sections
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> > >    8.2, 8.3, and 9), DOTS agents MUST NOT include the 'attack-
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> > >    description' attribute unless the corresponding attack mapping
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> > >    details were not previously shared with the peer DOTS agent.
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> > >
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> > > So, the text should explain why "attack-description" attributes are present in the example.
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> > >
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> > > You may consider removing them but add some text to recall the attack mapping over the data channel.
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> > >
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> > > Thank you.
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> > >
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> > > Cheers,
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> > > Med
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> > >
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> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
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> > > > De : Dots <dots-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de H Y
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> > > > Envoyé : vendredi 11 février 2022 05:16
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> > > > À : dots@ietf.org
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> > > > Cc : dots-chairs@ietf.org; Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net>;
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> > > > BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>; draft-ietf-
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> > > > dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org
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> > > > Objet : Re: [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04
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> > > >
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> > > > Hi all,
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> > > >
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> > > > We modified some nits and upload as 05. We will add some description to
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> > > > clarify our use cases.
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> > > >
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> > > > Comments are welcome.
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> > > >
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> > > > Thanks,
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> > > > Yuhei
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> > > >
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> > > > 2022年2月9日(水) 23:34 H Y <yuuhei.hayashi@gmail.com>:
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Hi Med,
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Thank you for your comments and suggestions.
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> > > > >
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> > > > > I will revise the draft in a few days.
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Thanks,
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> > > > > Yuhei
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> > > > >
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> > > > > 2022年2月9日(水) 22:59 <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>:
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Hi Valery, all,
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > I support advancing this document, but I think a revised version is
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> > > > needed.
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > FWIW, some comments and suggestions can be found at:
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> > > > > > * pdf:
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> > > > > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/mast
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> > > > > > er/draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04-rev%20Med.pdf
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> > > > > > * doc:
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> > > > > > https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/master/draft-ie
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> > > > > > tf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04-rev%20Med.doc
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Cheers,
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> > > > > > Med
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
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> > > > > > > De : Dots <dots-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Valery Smyslov
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> > > > > > > Envoyé : mercredi 9 février 2022 12:28 À : dots@ietf.org Cc :
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> > > > > > > dots-chairs@ietf.org; draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases@ietf.org
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> > > > > > > Objet : [Dots] WGLC for draft-ietf-dots-telemetry-use-cases-04
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Hi,
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > this message starts a two-week working group last call for
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> > > > > > > draft-ietf- dots-telemetry-use-cases-04.
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> > > > > > > The WGLC will end on Thursday, February 24. Please, review the
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> > > > > > > draft and send your comments to the mailing list.
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> > > > > > > Regards,
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> > > > > > > Frank & Valery.
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