Re: [Eligibility-discuss] [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-00.txt

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Hi SM,

On 27/12/2023 11:13, S Moonesamy wrote:
> I read a paper [1] written by Baron, Ganglmair, Persico, Simcoe and 
> Tarantino.  One of the findings in the paper was that female 
> representation in the Nomination Committee causes a decrease in female 
> appointments before 2012 and an increase thereafter.
> 
> There was a significant event around 2012 which might have influenced a 
> shift.  There was also a letter [2] after 2012 which put the IESG, IAB, 
> IAB and ISOC on notice.

Thanks for the reference. That's an interesting read that I'd
not seen before. I'd recommend reading it for others who've not
seen it and who are contributing to this discussion.

My take away is that it supports the idea of the kind of small
tweak Mallory has proposed, and secondly that for others who'd
like to see progress on other axes of diversity, maybe arguing
for the kind of social norm changes within the IETF that are
discussed in the paper is the way to go, rather than try make
process change proposals the place from which to start.

Cheers,
S.