Re: [eppext] rechartering

Frederico A C Neves <fneves@registro.br> Wed, 29 July 2015 14:09 UTC

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From: Frederico A C Neves <fneves@registro.br>
To: Andrew Newton <andy@hxr.us>
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Subject: Re: [eppext] rechartering
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 07:33:14AM -0400, Andrew Newton wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:03 PM, Patrick Mevzek <pm@dotandco.com> wrote:
> 
> > - EPP is now an "old" protocol, used by all gTLDs, and many ccTLDs
> >   registries ; AFAIK it is not used outside of the domain name
> > business, and seldom used outside of domain name registries; there is
> > no clear indication of any work, outside of technical areas, to try
> > improving EPP, for example by reducing the number of extensions,
> > forcing registries to implement some of them, etc…

I agree that there is very little to no incentive at all to
combine/merge old EPP extensions in production but for new work the
proposed "combined" charter seems attractive to me. We should leverage
as much as we can the history/experience on not spreading enough the
word and not exposing proposed extensions enough before they get
ossified on agreements and production systems. Focusing the work in a
single place is a good way of achieving this.

> I believe that both LACNIC and NIC.br, which in addition to being a ccTLD
> is also an NIR, use EPP.

Yes. NIC.br and NIC.mx, both NIRs, integrates to the LACNIC system
since Feb 2013 using the following extensions,

ftp://ftp.registro.br/pub/libepp-nicbr/draft-neves-epp-asn-02.txt
ftp://ftp.registro.br/pub/libepp-nicbr/draft-neves-epp-ipnetwork-02.txt

Besides of the NIR/RIR integration, LACNIC also provides this EPP
interface for direct customers.

...
> > At the end of the day, I think what could be used as a criteria is:
> > will this kind of merge in topics foster more work and feedback, and
> > hence going forward faster, or will it make no change?
> 
> I agree, that's an important question to ask. If the additional topic is
> too large for this working group, that would be a bad thing. But to date,
> EPPEXT has not exactly been high volume. That being said, we also wouldn't
> want to derail the backlog of EPP extension work with new RDAP work items.
> Therefore the proposed charter text states that the initial focus will be
> EPP work.

+1

> -andy

Fred