Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps

Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org> Tue, 15 August 2017 14:16 UTC

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Hi Amreesh –

 

Excellent.  Thank you for the input!

 

Jane

 

 

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From: "amreesh.phokeer@gmail.com" <amreesh.phokeer@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 4:08 AM
To: Gareth Tyson <g.tyson@qmul.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps

 

Hi all, 

 

Happy to keep the momemtum going online and through the CN doc. I was also thinking that it could be worth exploring the possibility of writing BCP documents for CNs. I'm sure we are already implementing a few BCPs for e.g. mesh routing, IPv6 for CNs etc

 

Cheers,

Amreesh   

 

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Gareth Tyson <g.tyson@qmul.ac.uk> wrote:

Hi Jane,

 

+1 Indeed, I think online interim meetings make a lot of sense! Regarding the CN doc, I'm happy to support the effort too.

 

Cheers,

Gareth.

 

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From: gaia <gaia-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Carlos Rey-Moreno <carlos.reymoreno@gmail.com>
Sent: 15 August 2017 08:22
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Subject: Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps 

 

Hi Jane, thanks for the minutes. See my answers inline

 

On 12 August 2017 at 12:52, Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org> wrote: 

 

1. To keep momentum going in between face-to-face meetings, it was suggested we hold on-line meet-ups.  

*Can we hear from all of you on whether or not you would be interested in some on-line meet-ups? 

 

Yes, I would like to participate in such meet ups. 

 

 

2.  During the “brainstorming” segment of the meeting, we discussed the idea of an info doc on community networks/local access networks, focusing on sustainability and technical solutions, based on current network deployments.  Some suggested focusing on business models/sustainability models, other suggested highlighting tech solutions being used.  Is there interest in contributing to a new background/info doc, based on current deployments, containing “case-study” like info?

 

Yes, I would like to participate/contribute in such study.

 

 

Send your thoughts to the list!  

 

Best,
Jane/Arjuna

 

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From: gaia <gaia-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 5:03 AM
To: Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: gaia <gaia@irtf.org>, tier <tier@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: [gaia] Ammbr: Happy Marriage of mesh and blockchain

 

great! fab - checkout this thing we did a while on "currency" & ad hoc nets - there's a bit about inflationary/deflationary tendencies near the end might be worth factoring in... 

http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~frank/PAPERS/micmahn.pdf

 

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

This article would be of interest to a new initiative to build a decentralised network using blockchain - technically aiming to build the world's largest blockchain network: https://medium.com/@globalsecurepayments/the-happy-marriage-of-mesh-and-blockchain-276cce4a4909 

 

We are doing an initial coin offering September 1st if anyone wants to invest :) (www.ammbr.com) - white paper will release next week.

 

Please send me an email (arjuna@ammbr.com) if you are interested to know more about Ammbr.

 

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