Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps

Ermanno Pietrosemoli <ermanno@gmail.com> Thu, 17 August 2017 08:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps
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Dear Michael,
Thanks for the very quick and positive response to this issue. I would also
like to thank Jane for her message.
The list is quite useful, so I hope it can be maintained and updated
periodically.

a good day to all,

Ermanno

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Michael Oghia <mike.oghia@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Ermanno, Jane, Amreesh, all:
>
> It's a pleasure to connect with this group, I'm familiar with GAIA's work
> and appreciate what you do. As the compiler of the list (as Jane said so
> well), thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have corrected the
> error.
>
> Note that this resource is open for comments and additions, so I also
> invite you to add any resources or correct mistakes.
>
> @Ermanno: It's an honor to connect with you especially, as I read your
> blog post on the ISOC blog
> <https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/development/2017/05/bringing-internet-venezuelas-remote-regions-while-setting-world-record>
> about the work you do in Venezuela and the training you recieved in Italy.
> It's both impressive and inspirational – keep up the great work!
>
> Please let me know if I can assist further.
>
> Best,
> -Michael
> __________________
>
> Michael J. Oghia
> Independent #netgov consultant & editor
>
> Belgrade, Serbia
> Skype: mikeoghia
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>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi All -
>>
>> The author is Michael Oghia – or rather he is the compiler of the data.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael – take a look at Ermanno’s comments below.  Could you edit the
>> DC-3 list?
>>
>> Ermanno is the founder of EslaRed and has done so much around the world
>> to help build connectivity, train people, and more.
>>
>>
>>
>> He also holds the world record using Ubiquiti gear ☺ for a
>> point-to-point comms link – 304 Km…
>>
>> https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2016/06/29/852463/0/
>> en/Ubiquiti-airFiber-Sets-New-World-Record-for-Long-Range-
>> Wireless-Broadband.html and is an esteemed colleague.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jane
>>
>>
>>
>> Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>>
>> Skype:  janercoffin
>>
>> Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429 <+1%20202-247-8429>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *"amreesh.phokeer@gmail.com" <amreesh.phokeer@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 3:42 PM
>> *To: *"ermanno@gmail.com" <ermanno@gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk>, gaia <
>> gaia@irtf.org>, Kanchana Kanchanasut <Kanchana.Kanchanasut@cs.ait.ac.th>,
>> Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and
>> Next Steps
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ermanno,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for pointing this out. Unfortunately I do not know the author
>> of the document but I suppose you can comment on the google doc directly.
>> The author will be notified.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Amreesh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Ermanno Pietrosemoli <ermanno@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Amreesh
>>
>> Thanks for the very interesting list of resources.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to point out to a mistake in the list:
>>
>>
>>
>> *Courses and workshops*
>>
>>    - Digital Empowerment Foundation's IEEE-accredited course on wireless
>>    networking <http://wforc.defindia.org/ieee-material-designed-by-def/>
>>    - Go Local! Workshop <http://decentralizethis.org/Go_Local!_Workshop>
>>    (K-net <http://knet.ca/>)
>>    - APC's TRICALCAR project (English
>>    <http://www.itrainonline.org/itrainonline/mmtk/wireless.shtml> &
>>    Spanish
>>    <http://www.itrainonline.org/itrainonline/mmtk/wireless_es/files/>)
>>
>>
>>
>> TRICALCAR project was funded by IDRC, and coordinated by EsLaRed.
>> Although the participant members happened to be members of APC, it should
>> be attributed to the real coordinator Fundacion EsLaRed. I personally
>> revised each of the original documents produced under thie contract, shown
>> in the attached document:
>>
>>
>>
>> I will really appreciate if the list is corrected accordingly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ermanno Pietrosemoli
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Amreesh Phokeer <
>> amreesh.phokeer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I like the idea of starting a list of topics and possible drafts, don't
>> think there is any at the moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me also share a very useful doc, recently shared on the DC3 group.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lp5DTB2Bso4Uz7yn3f7yza90
>> Z9iqm6sUCONyLCcFWqc/edit
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Amreesh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <
>> arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Jane & Kanchana,
>>
>> Trying to understand a bit more on the format of the GAIA workshop at
>> AINTEC. Just an informal meeting like we had in Cambridge or something
>> more formal like the SIGCOMM GAIA workshop we had which had a peer
>> review process?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> On 16 August 2017 at 20:48, Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org> wrote:
>> > Nick –
>> >
>> > Great points.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > And, we may take you up on the offer to host a meeting.  We use Zoom
>> and can volunteer to be next in line after you.
>> >
>> > Very cool collaboration all around.
>> >
>> > Jane/Arjuna
>> >
>> > Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>> >
>> > Skype:  janercoffin
>> >
>> > Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429
>> >
>> > On 8/16/17, 11:11 AM, "Nick Feamster" <feamster@CS.Princeton.EDU>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Chiming in here after lurking a bit... I very much relish the idea
>> of online meetings (Goto Meeting works well, for example, and I’m happy to
>> host), versus long plane flights in the middle of the academic term.
>> >
>> >     AINTEC is a great venue and I very much hope to attend again;
>> however, that need not preclude discussion and progress in-between GAIA
>> meetings, especially since there are likely many threads that individual
>> sub-groups can work on. (Is there a list of active topics and drafts
>> somewhere, by the way?)
>> >
>> >     A thought on physical venue, though: Consider the challenges of
>> getting students visas to particular countries. Some of the venues may pose
>> more problems than others, and all things being equal, it would be nice to
>> lower the visa barrier for students.
>> >
>> >     -Nick
>> >
>> >
>> >     > On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Kurtis Heimerl <
>> kheimerl@cs.washington.edu> wrote:
>> >     >
>> >     > As another thought, I am currently planning on attending the next
>> IETF in Singapore (with the assumption of a GAIA meeting) because ICTD will
>> be hosted in Lahore, Pakistan immediately after as well! It's here:
>> http://ictd2017.itu.edu.pk/ We've submitted a proposal for a community
>> networking workshop there again with a regional focus, I think Kanchana and
>> I should figure out how to host just one event in order to not split the
>> community up too much. Thailand is definitely easier to get to but there's
>> a lot of energy in Pakistan now so we'll hash it out.
>> >     >
>> >     > Definitely have a GAIA event at the next IETF though!
>> >     >
>> >     > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org>
>> wrote:
>> >     > Kanchana!
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Thank you for your response and the extremely generous offer to
>> host a regional GAIA meet-up!
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > GAIA-People – link for IETF 100 in Singapore is here:
>> http://ietf.org/meeting/100/index.html  11-17 November 2017.
>> >     >
>> >     > The jump over to Thailand is very easy if you plan to be at IETF.
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Perhaps we can schedule another GAIA meet up at IETF 100 and
>> continue on to Thailand for a regional close-up?
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > In any event, excellent options on the table.
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Best,
>> >     >
>> >     > Arjuna/Jane
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>> >     >
>> >     > Skype:  janercoffin
>> >     >
>> >     > Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > From: Kanchana Kanchanasut <Kanchana.Kanchanasut@cs.ait.ac.th>
>> >     > Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 11:16 PM
>> >     > To: Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org>
>> >     > Cc: Kanchana Kanchanasut <kk@cs.ait.ac.th>, gaia <gaia@irtf.org>
>> >     > Subject: Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted
>> and Next Steps
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Jane,
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > To keep up with the momentum,  I agree that we should have
>> on-line meet-ups to supplement the face-to-face meetings.  I would like to
>> take this opportunity to invite everyone to consider a meeting in Thailand
>> right after Singapore IETF 100.   The GAIA meeting can be held during 18-19
>> November weekend just before our annual meeting AINTEC (
>> https://interlab.ait.ac.th/aintec2017/).  For those interested in
>> AINTEC,  our CFP is still open.
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > We would be happy to host the meeting in Thailand,  if members
>> are interested.
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Thank you very much,
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Kanchana
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > On Aug 12, 2560 BE, at 5:52 PM, Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org>
>> wrote:
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Good people of GAIA –
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Minutes from the 19 July meeting were posted, yesterday, meeting
>> IETF’s deadline!!
>> >     >
>> >     > Huge thanks to Gareth Tyson and Amreesh Phokeer for the excellent
>> note-taking and contributions during the meeting.  Any mistakes in
>> formatting are mine.
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Corrections to the minutes, agenda/other are due to the IETF by 4
>> September UTC 23:59.  Please send any corrections to the minutes/meeting
>> materials no later than 2 September UTC 23:59 and we will update.  All
>> meeting materials are here:  https://datatracker.ietf.org/m
>> eeting/99/session/gaia
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Some ASKs for the group – your views are needed:
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > 1. To keep momentum going in between face-to-face meetings, it
>> was suggested we hold on-line meet-ups.
>> >     >
>> >     > *Can we hear from all of you on whether or not you would be
>> interested in some on-line meet-ups?
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > 2.  During the “brainstorming” segment of the meeting, we
>> discussed the idea of an info doc on community networks/local access
>> networks, focusing on sustainability and technical solutions, based on
>> current network deployments.  Some suggested focusing on business
>> models/sustainability models, other suggested highlighting tech solutions
>> being used.  Is there interest in contributing to a new background/info
>> doc, based on current deployments, containing “case-study” like info?
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Send your thoughts to the list!
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Best,
>> >     > Jane/Arjuna
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>> >     >
>> >     > Skype:  janercoffin
>> >     >
>> >     > Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > From: gaia <gaia-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Jon Crowcroft <
>> jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk>
>> >     > Date: Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 5:03 AM
>> >     > To: Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk>
>> >     > Cc: gaia <gaia@irtf.org>, tier <tier@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>
>> >     > Subject: Re: [gaia] Ammbr: Happy Marriage of mesh and blockchain
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > great! fab - checkout this thing we did a while on "currency" &
>> ad hoc nets - there's a bit about inflationary/deflationary tendencies near
>> the end might be worth factoring in...
>> >     >
>> >     > http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~frank/PAPERS/micmahn.pdf
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <
>> arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >     >
>> >     > This article would be of interest to a new initiative to build a
>> decentralised network using blockchain - technically aiming to build the
>> world's largest blockchain network: https://medium.com/@globalsecu
>> repayments/the-happy-marriage-of-mesh-and-blockchain-276cce4a4909
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > We are doing an initial coin offering September 1st if anyone
>> wants to invest :) (www.ammbr.com) - white paper will release next week.
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Please send me an email (arjuna@ammbr.com) if you are interested
>> to know more about Ammbr.
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Regards
>> >     >
>> >     >
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>> Professor Ermanno Pietrosemoli
>> Telecommunications/ICT for Development Laboratory (T/ICT4D)
>> Abdus Salam International Centre for Theoretical Physics  Strada Costiera
>> 11, Trieste 34151, Italy
>>
>> ermanno@ictp.it       http://wireless.ictp.it
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>> Presidente
>> Fundación Escuela Latinoamericana de Redes (EsLaRed)
>> www.EsLaRed.net
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>> --
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Professor Ermanno Pietrosemoli
Telecommunications/ICT for Development Laboratory (T/ICT4D)
Abdus Salam International Centre for Theoretical Physics  Strada Costiera
11, Trieste 34151, Italy
ermanno@ictp.it       http://wireless.ictp.it
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Presidente
Fundación Escuela Latinoamericana de Redes (EsLaRed)
www.EsLaRed.net