Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps

[Michael Oghia <[e-mail]>]

Dear Amreesh,

Likewise! And thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate it. About a
year ago, I began focusing more on sustainability as it relates to ICTs and
the Internet. I don't have a background in it, so I've had to do a lot of
catch-up. There is so much more we can do, and given the trends in data
growth and e-waste dumping, so much more we *should* do as well.

Best,
-Michael

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Amreesh Phokeer <[e-mail]
> wrote:

> Dear Michael,
>
> Pleased to meet you. Coincidently I was reading your blog post
> <http://www.circleid.com/posts/20170815_aviation_the_dirty_not_so_little_secret_of_internet_governance/>
> today on circleid. Insightful!
>
> Cheers,
> Amreesh
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Michael Oghia <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Ermanno, Jane, Amreesh, all:
>>
>> It's a pleasure to connect with this group, I'm familiar with GAIA's work
>> and appreciate what you do. As the compiler of the list (as Jane said so
>> well), thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have corrected the
>> error.
>>
>> Note that this resource is open for comments and additions, so I also
>> invite you to add any resources or correct mistakes.
>>
>> @Ermanno: It's an honor to connect with you especially, as I read your
>> blog post on the ISOC blog
>> <https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/development/2017/05/bringing-internet-venezuelas-remote-regions-while-setting-world-record>
>> about the work you do in Venezuela and the training you recieved in Italy.
>> It's both impressive and inspirational – keep up the great work!
>>
>> Please let me know if I can assist further.
>>
>> Best,
>> -Michael
>> __________________
>>
>> Michael J. Oghia
>> Independent #netgov consultant & editor
>>
>> Belgrade, Serbia
>> Skype: mikeoghia
>> Twitter <https://www.twitter.com/MikeOghia> *|* LinkedIn
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeoghia>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Jane Coffin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All -
>>>
>>> The author is Michael Oghia – or rather he is the compiler of the data.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael – take a look at Ermanno’s comments below.  Could you edit the
>>> DC-3 list?
>>>
>>> Ermanno is the founder of EslaRed and has done so much around the world
>>> to help build connectivity, train people, and more.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He also holds the world record using Ubiquiti gear ☺ for a
>>> point-to-point comms link – 304 Km…
>>>
>>> https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2016/06/29/852463/0/e
>>> n/Ubiquiti-airFiber-Sets-New-World-Record-for-Long-Range-Wir
>>> eless-Broadband.html and is an esteemed colleague.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>>>
>>> Skype:  janercoffin
>>>
>>> Mobile/WhatsApp:  [phone] <+1%20202-247-8429>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
>>> *Date: *Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 3:42 PM
>>> *To: *"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
>>> *Cc: *Arjuna Sathiaseelan <[e-mail]>, gaia <
>>> [e-mail]>, Kanchana Kanchanasut <[e-mail]>,
>>> Jane Coffin <[e-mail]>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and
>>> Next Steps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ermanno,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for pointing this out. Unfortunately I do not know the author
>>> of the document but I suppose you can comment on the google doc directly.
>>> The author will be notified.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Amreesh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Ermanno Pietrosemoli <[e-mail]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Amreesh
>>>
>>> Thanks for the very interesting list of resources.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to point out to a mistake in the list:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Courses and workshops*
>>>
>>>    - Digital Empowerment Foundation's IEEE-accredited course on
>>>    wireless networking
>>>    <http://wforc.defindia.org/ieee-material-designed-by-def/>
>>>    - Go Local! Workshop <http://decentralizethis.org/Go_Local!_Workshop>
>>>    (K-net <http://knet.ca/>)
>>>    - APC's TRICALCAR project (English
>>>    <http://www.itrainonline.org/itrainonline/mmtk/wireless.shtml> &
>>>    Spanish
>>>    <http://www.itrainonline.org/itrainonline/mmtk/wireless_es/files/>)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TRICALCAR project was funded by IDRC, and coordinated by EsLaRed.
>>> Although the participant members happened to be members of APC, it should
>>> be attributed to the real coordinator Fundacion EsLaRed. I personally
>>> revised each of the original documents produced under thie contract, shown
>>> in the attached document:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will really appreciate if the list is corrected accordingly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ermanno Pietrosemoli
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Amreesh Phokeer <
>>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the idea of starting a list of topics and possible drafts, don't
>>> think there is any at the moment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me also share a very useful doc, recently shared on the DC3 group.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lp5DTB2Bso4Uz7yn3f7yza90
>>> Z9iqm6sUCONyLCcFWqc/edit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Amreesh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <
>>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Jane & Kanchana,
>>>
>>> Trying to understand a bit more on the format of the GAIA workshop at
>>> AINTEC. Just an informal meeting like we had in Cambridge or something
>>> more formal like the SIGCOMM GAIA workshop we had which had a peer
>>> review process?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 August 2017 at 20:48, Jane Coffin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>> > Nick –
>>> >
>>> > Great points.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you.
>>> >
>>> > And, we may take you up on the offer to host a meeting.  We use Zoom
>>> and can volunteer to be next in line after you.
>>> >
>>> > Very cool collaboration all around.
>>> >
>>> > Jane/Arjuna
>>> >
>>> > Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>>> >
>>> > Skype:  janercoffin
>>> >
>>> > Mobile/WhatsApp:  [phone]
>>> >
>>> > On 8/16/17, 11:11 AM, "Nick Feamster" <[e-mail]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Chiming in here after lurking a bit... I very much relish the idea
>>> of online meetings (Goto Meeting works well, for example, and I’m happy to
>>> host), versus long plane flights in the middle of the academic term.
>>> >
>>> >     AINTEC is a great venue and I very much hope to attend again;
>>> however, that need not preclude discussion and progress in-between GAIA
>>> meetings, especially since there are likely many threads that individual
>>> sub-groups can work on. (Is there a list of active topics and drafts
>>> somewhere, by the way?)
>>> >
>>> >     A thought on physical venue, though: Consider the challenges of
>>> getting students visas to particular countries. Some of the venues may pose
>>> more problems than others, and all things being equal, it would be nice to
>>> lower the visa barrier for students.
>>> >
>>> >     -Nick
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     > On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Kurtis Heimerl <
>>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     > As another thought, I am currently planning on attending the
>>> next IETF in Singapore (with the assumption of a GAIA meeting) because ICTD
>>> will be hosted in Lahore, Pakistan immediately after as well! It's here:
>>> http://ictd2017.itu.edu.pk/ We've submitted a proposal for a community
>>> networking workshop there again with a regional focus, I think Kanchana and
>>> I should figure out how to host just one event in order to not split the
>>> community up too much. Thailand is definitely easier to get to but there's
>>> a lot of energy in Pakistan now so we'll hash it out.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Definitely have a GAIA event at the next IETF though!
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Jane Coffin <[e-mail]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >     > Kanchana!
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Thank you for your response and the extremely generous offer to
>>> host a regional GAIA meet-up!
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > GAIA-People – link for IETF 100 in Singapore is here:
>>> http://ietf.org/meeting/100/index.html  11-17 November 2017.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > The jump over to Thailand is very easy if you plan to be at IETF.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Perhaps we can schedule another GAIA meet up at IETF 100 and
>>> continue on to Thailand for a regional close-up?
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > In any event, excellent options on the table.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Best,
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Arjuna/Jane
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Skype:  janercoffin
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Mobile/WhatsApp:  [phone]
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > From: Kanchana Kanchanasut <[e-mail]>
>>> >     > Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 11:16 PM
>>> >     > To: Jane Coffin <[e-mail]>
>>> >     > Cc: Kanchana Kanchanasut <[e-mail]>, gaia <[e-mail]>
>>> >     > Subject: Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted
>>> and Next Steps
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Jane,
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > To keep up with the momentum,  I agree that we should have
>>> on-line meet-ups to supplement the face-to-face meetings.  I would like to
>>> take this opportunity to invite everyone to consider a meeting in Thailand
>>> right after Singapore IETF 100.   The GAIA meeting can be held during 18-19
>>> November weekend just before our annual meeting AINTEC (
>>> https://interlab.ait.ac.th/aintec2017/).  For those interested in
>>> AINTEC,  our CFP is still open.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > We would be happy to host the meeting in Thailand,  if members
>>> are interested.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Thank you very much,
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Kanchana
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On Aug 12, 2560 BE, at 5:52 PM, Jane Coffin <[e-mail]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Good people of GAIA –
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Minutes from the 19 July meeting were posted, yesterday, meeting
>>> IETF’s deadline!!
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Huge thanks to Gareth Tyson and Amreesh Phokeer for the
>>> excellent note-taking and contributions during the meeting.  Any mistakes
>>> in formatting are mine.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Corrections to the minutes, agenda/other are due to the IETF by
>>> 4 September UTC 23:59.  Please send any corrections to the minutes/meeting
>>> materials no later than 2 September UTC 23:59 and we will update.  All
>>> meeting materials are here:  https://datatracker.ietf.org/m
>>> eeting/99/session/gaia
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Some ASKs for the group – your views are needed:
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > 1. To keep momentum going in between face-to-face meetings, it
>>> was suggested we hold on-line meet-ups.
>>> >     >
>>> >     > *Can we hear from all of you on whether or not you would be
>>> interested in some on-line meet-ups?
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > 2.  During the “brainstorming” segment of the meeting, we
>>> discussed the idea of an info doc on community networks/local access
>>> networks, focusing on sustainability and technical solutions, based on
>>> current network deployments.  Some suggested focusing on business
>>> models/sustainability models, other suggested highlighting tech solutions
>>> being used.  Is there interest in contributing to a new background/info
>>> doc, based on current deployments, containing “case-study” like info?
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Send your thoughts to the list!
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Best,
>>> >     > Jane/Arjuna
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Skype:  janercoffin
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Mobile/WhatsApp:  [phone]
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > From: gaia <[e-mail]> on behalf of Jon Crowcroft <
>>> [e-mail]>
>>> >     > Date: Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 5:03 AM
>>> >     > To: Arjuna Sathiaseelan <[e-mail]>
>>> >     > Cc: gaia <[e-mail]>, tier <[e-mail]>
>>> >     > Subject: Re: [gaia] Ammbr: Happy Marriage of mesh and blockchain
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > great! fab - checkout this thing we did a while on "currency" &
>>> ad hoc nets - there's a bit about inflationary/deflationary tendencies near
>>> the end might be worth factoring in...
>>> >     >
>>> >     > http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~frank/PAPERS/micmahn.pdf
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <
>>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>> >     >
>>> >     > This article would be of interest to a new initiative to build a
>>> decentralised network using blockchain - technically aiming to build the
>>> world's largest blockchain network: https://medium.com/@globalsecu
>>> repayments/the-happy-marriage-of-mesh-and-blockchain-276cce4a4909
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > We are doing an initial coin offering September 1st if anyone
>>> wants to invest :) (www.ammbr.com) - white paper will release next week.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Please send me an email ([e-mail]) if you are
>>> interested to know more about Ammbr.
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
>>> >     > Regards
>>> >     >
>>> >     >
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>>> Professor Ermanno Pietrosemoli
>>> Telecommunications/ICT for Development Laboratory (T/ICT4D)
>>> Abdus Salam International Centre for Theoretical Physics  Strada
>>> Costiera 11, Trieste 34151, Italy
>>>
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>>> Fundación Escuela Latinoamericana de Redes (EsLaRed)
>>> www.EsLaRed.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Amreesh Phokeer
>>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> Amreesh Phokeer
>