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Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps

Gareth Tyson <g.tyson@qmul.ac.uk> Tue, 15 August 2017 07:43 UTC

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From: Gareth Tyson <g.tyson@qmul.ac.uk>
To: Carlos Rey-Moreno <carlos.reymoreno@gmail.com>, Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org>
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Hi Jane,


+1 Indeed, I think online interim meetings make a lot of sense! Regarding the CN doc, I'm happy to support the effort too.


Cheers,

Gareth.


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From: gaia <gaia-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Carlos Rey-Moreno <carlos.reymoreno@gmail.com>
Sent: 15 August 2017 08:22
To: Jane Coffin
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Subject: Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps

Hi Jane, thanks for the minutes. See my answers inline

On 12 August 2017 at 12:52, Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org<mailto:coffin@isoc.org>> wrote:

1. To keep momentum going in between face-to-face meetings, it was suggested we hold on-line meet-ups.
*Can we hear from all of you on whether or not you would be interested in some on-line meet-ups?

Yes, I would like to participate in such meet ups.


2.  During the “brainstorming” segment of the meeting, we discussed the idea of an info doc on community networks/local access networks, focusing on sustainability and technical solutions, based on current network deployments.  Some suggested focusing on business models/sustainability models, other suggested highlighting tech solutions being used.  Is there interest in contributing to a new background/info doc, based on current deployments, containing “case-study” like info?

Yes, I would like to participate/contribute in such study.


Send your thoughts to the list!

Best,
Jane/Arjuna

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From: gaia <gaia-bounces@irtf.org<mailto:gaia-bounces@irtf.org>> on behalf of Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk<mailto:jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk>>
Date: Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 5:03 AM
To: Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk<mailto:arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk>>
Cc: gaia <gaia@irtf.org<mailto:gaia@irtf.org>>, tier <tier@tier.cs.berkeley.edu<mailto:tier@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>>
Subject: Re: [gaia] Ammbr: Happy Marriage of mesh and blockchain

great! fab - checkout this thing we did a while on "currency" & ad hoc nets - there's a bit about inflationary/deflationary tendencies near the end might be worth factoring in...
http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~frank/PAPERS/micmahn.pdf

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk<mailto:arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk>> wrote:
This article would be of interest to a new initiative to build a decentralised network using blockchain - technically aiming to build the world's largest blockchain network: https://medium.com/@globalsecurepayments/the-happy-marriage-of-mesh-and-blockchain-276cce4a4909

We are doing an initial coin offering September 1st if anyone wants to invest :) (www.ammbr.com<http://www.ammbr.com>) - white paper will release next week.

Please send me an email (arjuna@ammbr.com<mailto:arjuna@ammbr.com>) if you are interested to know more about Ammbr.

Regards

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