Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps

Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org> Tue, 15 August 2017 14:13 UTC

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Dear Alagie –


Excellent.  Thank you for the feedback.  

 

Be well,

Jane

 

 

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From: gaia <gaia-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Alagie Ceesay <aceesay84@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 6:55 AM
To: "El Khatib, Yehia (elkhatib)" <y.elkhatib@lancaster.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps

 

Dear Jane,

Thank you for sharing the minutes. I am also interested in the online meetups and to contribute on any info Doc especially on CNs

Looking forward to it.

Alagie Ceesay

 

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:45 AM, El Khatib, Yehia (elkhatib) <y.elkhatib@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:

I was not able to attend a number of meetings, so online meetups would be very useful. 

 

Dr. Yehia Elkhatib

School of Computing & Communications

Lancaster University, LA1 4WA, UK

y.elkhatib /then add/ lancaster.ac.uk

http://www.lancaster.ac.uk/~elkhatib 

 

From: gaia [mailto:gaia-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Leandro Navarro
Sent: 15 August 2017 11:07
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Subject: Re: [gaia] GAIA - Minutes from 19 July Meeting posted and Next Steps
Importance: High

 

I’m glad to see an active WG, thanks by the two co-chairs and everyone else. It’s very useful to see the notes of the last meeting once we start to forget the details ;-)

 

I’d definitely be interested in on-line meet-ups. In fact, it can be a great opportunity to know more and have focused discussions on topics or initiatives of common interest (e.g. someone sends a document or slides, and one week later we have a call to discuss the details).

 

Regarding an "info doc on community networks/local access networks, focusing on sustainability and technical solutions, based on current network deployments”, this connects to our past and ongoing work in netCommons (both on sustainability and technical aspects) so we’re really happy to contribute a significant effort to make it happen soon. Not only me, but I’m sure other researchers and practitioners will contribute.

 

in fact the on-line meet-ups can help to build the info doc.

 

Kind regards, Leandro.

 

On 12 Aug 2017, at 12:52, Jane Coffin <coffin@isoc.org> wrote:

 

Good people of GAIA –

 

Minutes from the 19 July meeting were posted, yesterday, meeting IETF’s deadline!!

Huge thanks to Gareth Tyson and Amreesh Phokeer for the excellent note-taking and contributions during the meeting.  Any mistakes in formatting are mine.

 

Corrections to the minutes, agenda/other are due to the IETF by 4 September UTC 23:59.  Please send any corrections to the minutes/meeting materials no later than 2 September UTC 23:59 and we will update.  All meeting materials are here:  https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/session/gaia

 

Some ASKs for the group – your views are needed:

 

1. To keep momentum going in between face-to-face meetings, it was suggested we hold on-line meet-ups.  

*Can we hear from all of you on whether or not you would be interested in some on-line meet-ups? 

 

2.  During the “brainstorming” segment of the meeting, we discussed the idea of an info doc on community networks/local access networks, focusing on sustainability and technical solutions, based on current network deployments.  Some suggested focusing on business models/sustainability models, other suggested highlighting tech solutions being used.  Is there interest in contributing to a new background/info doc, based on current deployments, containing “case-study” like info?

 

Send your thoughts to the list!  

 

Best,
Jane/Arjuna

 

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From: gaia <gaia-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 5:03 AM
To: Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: gaia <gaia@irtf.org>, tier <tier@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: [gaia] Ammbr: Happy Marriage of mesh and blockchain

 

great! fab - checkout this thing we did a while on "currency" & ad hoc nets - there's a bit about inflationary/deflationary tendencies near the end might be worth factoring in... 

http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~frank/PAPERS/micmahn.pdf

 

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan <arjuna.sathiaseelan@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

This article would be of interest to a new initiative to build a decentralised network using blockchain - technically aiming to build the world's largest blockchain network: https://medium.com/@globalsecurepayments/the-happy-marriage-of-mesh-and-blockchain-276cce4a4909

 

We are doing an initial coin offering September 1st if anyone wants to invest :) (www.ammbr.com) - white paper will release next week.

 

Please send me an email (arjuna@ammbr.com) if you are interested to know more about Ammbr.

 

Regards


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