Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45bis-01.txt

Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> Tue, 30 March 2021 13:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45bis-01.txt
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Hi,

On 2021-3-30, at 16:20, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
>> On 30 Mar 2021, at 14:58, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd prefer to do a minimal update to BCP45 soon, to bring its charter back in line with its current use.
>> 
>> We can always revise it again, when there is consensus on more fundamental changes.
> 
> If we have to have consensus on changes, what is the point of dispatching at all?  We might as well just go right to RFC from here.

it isn't clear that we have consensus for the minimal update to BCP45 that I'm trying to propose. I'm using gendispatch to get some initial feedback.

>  You are setting the bar so high that we cannot even have the discussion.

I'm sorry if I was unclear. I'm not setting any bar or stopping any discussion. If participants want to make a case for more fundamentally revamping the ietf@ietf.org list, or replacing it with some other discussion forum, that's completely fine by me.

But that discussion will likely take some time, whereas a minimal update to bring BCP45 into alignment with current practice need not be delayed by that discussion. And if that minimal update becomes obsolete at that point, that's fine, too.

Thanks,
Lars