Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45bis-01.txt
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 30 March 2021 11:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45bis-01.txt
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Hiya, On 30/03/2021 12:33, Lars Eggert wrote: > I think draft-nottingham-discussion-recharter makes a pretty > convincing case thatietf@ietf.org isn't a general list for the IETF > community (= the "union" I mentioned above), and probably hasn't been > for quite some time. I don't agree that Mark's draft is convincing. I do think the topics raised are interesting and warrant debate some place/time, but I don't really agree with the fundamental ideas that representation and productivity are the most important characteristics for our broadest discussion venue. That said, the draft in the subject line doesn't go there and is fine. My only quibble with draft-eggert-bcp45bis is that the opening sentence from section 2 ("This list is meant for initial technical discussion only.") is badly phrased and contradicted by later text. I think it'd be better to say "This list is not meant for detailed technical discussion that belongs on a WG list or on it's own list, once such a list exists." (Or, just delete the first sentence as it's not needed.) Cheers, S.
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Eric Rescorla
- [Gendispatch] Large cluster [Re: I-D Action: draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45b… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] Large cluster [Re: I-D Action: … Eric Rescorla