Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion

Andrei Gurtov <gurtov@hiit.fi> Thu, 30 June 2011 06:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion
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Can you commit to attend the HIPRG meetings at IETF for one-two years to
 contribute to h-hip draft development or at least provide active
feedback on the mailing list (e.g. at least one email/week)?

Same question also applies to China mobile.

Andrei


Wendong WANG wrote:
> 
>  
> Our team has
> interesting on the hierarchical HIT research work. we have already implemented a demo of ID-Locator mapping services based on HIP. 
> We also hope to do more works on it for the future Internet mobility and security functions.
> Wendong WANG
> Beijing Universty of Posts and Telecommunications (BUPT) 
> 2011-06-30
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>> -----邮件原件-----
>> 发件人: Andrei Gurtov [mailto:gurtov@hiit.fi]
>> 发送时间: 2011年6月14日 17:44
>> 收件人: Xu Xiaohu
>> 抄送: 'Henderson, Thomas R'; hiprg@irtf.org; irtf-chair@irsg.org
>> 主题: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion
>> 
>> 
>> Hei Xiaohu,
>> 
>> That's an interesting topic, but there should be interest of several
>> organizations to discuss and develop it jointly at HIPRG. Can you think
>> of others who would be willing to commit to this topic for a couple
>> years? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua University?
>> 
>> Andrei
>> 
>> Xu Xiaohu wrote:
>> > Hi Tom and all,
>> >
>> > I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a new charter
>> > item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using hierarchical HITs
>> > from the commercial deployment perspectives:
>> >
>> > First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the ID-to-Locator
>> > mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs could be run in a
>> > hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility management
>> service
>> > systems could be operated by different countries and different operators
>> > with clear administrative domain boundaries and reasonable business
>> models,
>> > just like the telephone number space in the telephone network and the home
>> > address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the existing DNS
>> > infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to say, HITs of
>> > the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding AAAA RRs in
>> > the existing DNS infrastructure.
>> >
>> > Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition for HIP. For
>> > instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via provider-owned
>> > HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP network) since the
>> > hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the contrary,
>> > ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there is no reasonable
>> > business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices for such flat
>> > identifiers.
>> >
>> > There has been some proposals and presentations discussing about
>> > hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows:
>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02
>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02
>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04
>> >
>> > By the way, we have implemented the RANGI
>> > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which uses a
>> > hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with delegation-oriented structure.
>> > Hope we could have a chance to show the implementation details and
>> > verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec City.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Xiaohu
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----邮件原件-----
>> >> 发件人: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] 代表
>> >> Henderson, Thomas R
>> >> 发送时间: 2011年6月6日 22:49
>> >> 收件人: hiprg@irtf.org
>> >> 抄送: 'irtf-chair@irsg.org'
>> >> 主题: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion
>> >>
>> >> With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter item
>> > since
>> >> the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions of the
>> > RG.
>> >> Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to define some
>> >> new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play
>> > relative to
>> >> the WG.
>> >>
>> >> These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria:
>> >> - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet community and
>> > for
>> >> HIP in particular?  What are the expected outcomes and impact?
>> >> - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise?  For instance,
>> >> participation drawn from more than a single institution or country.  Can
>> > we
>> >> try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation?
>> >>
>> >> We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I would like
>> > to see
>> >> whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before the
>> > meeting.
>> >> - Tom
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