Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion
Zhen Cao <zehn.cao@gmail.com> Sun, 03 July 2011 08:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion
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Hi Andrei, Attendance is not a problem. China Mobile has been actively attending IETF for more than 6 years, 10 people each time. And we are also always alive on the mailing list. Thank you, Zhen -China Mobile On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Andrei Gurtov <gurtov@hiit.fi> wrote: > > Can you commit to attend the HIPRG meetings at IETF for one-two years to > contribute to h-hip draft development or at least provide active > feedback on the mailing list (e.g. at least one email/week)? > > Same question also applies to China mobile. > > Andrei > > > Wendong WANG wrote: >> >> >> Our team has >> interesting on the hierarchical HIT research work. we have already implemented a demo of ID-Locator mapping services based on HIP. >> We also hope to do more works on it for the future Internet mobility and security functions. >> Wendong WANG >> Beijing Universty of Posts and Telecommunications (BUPT) >> 2011-06-30 >> >> >> >>> -----邮件原件----- >>> 发件人: Andrei Gurtov [mailto:gurtov@hiit.fi] >>> 发送时间: 2011年6月14日 17:44 >>> 收件人: Xu Xiaohu >>> 抄送: 'Henderson, Thomas R'; hiprg@irtf.org; irtf-chair@irsg.org >>> 主题: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >>> >>> >>> Hei Xiaohu, >>> >>> That's an interesting topic, but there should be interest of several >>> organizations to discuss and develop it jointly at HIPRG. Can you think >>> of others who would be willing to commit to this topic for a couple >>> years? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua University? >>> >>> Andrei >>> >>> Xu Xiaohu wrote: >>> > Hi Tom and all, >>> > >>> > I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a new charter >>> > item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using hierarchical HITs >>> > from the commercial deployment perspectives: >>> > >>> > First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the ID-to-Locator >>> > mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs could be run in a >>> > hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility management >>> service >>> > systems could be operated by different countries and different operators >>> > with clear administrative domain boundaries and reasonable business >>> models, >>> > just like the telephone number space in the telephone network and the home >>> > address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the existing DNS >>> > infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to say, HITs of >>> > the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding AAAA RRs in >>> > the existing DNS infrastructure. >>> > >>> > Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition for HIP. For >>> > instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via provider-owned >>> > HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP network) since the >>> > hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the contrary, >>> > ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there is no reasonable >>> > business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices for such flat >>> > identifiers. >>> > >>> > There has been some proposals and presentations discussing about >>> > hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows: >>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02 >>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02 >>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04 >>> > >>> > By the way, we have implemented the RANGI >>> > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which uses a >>> > hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with delegation-oriented structure. >>> > Hope we could have a chance to show the implementation details and >>> > verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec City. >>> > >>> > Best regards, >>> > Xiaohu >>> > >>> > >>> >> -----邮件原件----- >>> >> 发件人: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] 代表 >>> >> Henderson, Thomas R >>> >> 发送时间: 2011年6月6日 22:49 >>> >> 收件人: hiprg@irtf.org >>> >> 抄送: 'irtf-chair@irsg.org' >>> >> 主题: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >>> >> >>> >> With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter item >>> > since >>> >> the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions of the >>> > RG. >>> >> Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to define some >>> >> new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play >>> > relative to >>> >> the WG. >>> >> >>> >> These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria: >>> >> - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet community and >>> > for >>> >> HIP in particular? What are the expected outcomes and impact? >>> >> - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise? For instance, >>> >> participation drawn from more than a single institution or country. Can >>> > we >>> >> try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation? >>> >> >>> >> We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I would like >>> > to see >>> >> whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before the >>> > meeting. >>> >> - Tom >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> hiprg mailing list >>> >> hiprg@irtf.org >>> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > hiprg mailing list >>> > hiprg@irtf.org >>> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> hiprg mailing list >> hiprg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg > > _______________________________________________ > hiprg mailing list > hiprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg > -- Best regards, Zhen
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- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Xu Xiaohu
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- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Zhen Cao
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Wendong WANG
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Andrei Gurtov
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