Re: [hiprg] 回复:Re: HIPRG charter discussion
Andrei Gurtov <gurtov@hiit.fi> Fri, 30 September 2011 09:33 UTC
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Are you planning to present something at Taipei HIPRG? BR Andrei On 16.6.2011 6:56, xuxiaohu 41208 wrote: > ----- 原邮件 ----- 发件人: Andrei Gurtov <gurtov@hiit.fi> 日期: 星期二, 六月 14 > 日, 2011 下午6:21 主题: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion 收件人: Xu > Xiaohu <xuxh@huawei.com> 抄送: "'Henderson, Thomas R'" > <thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com>, hiprg@irtf.org, > irtf-chair@irsg.org > >> >> Hei Xiaohu, >> >> That's an interesting topic, but there should be interest of >> several organizations to discuss and develop it jointly at HIPRG. >> Can you thinkof others who would be willing to commit to this >> topic for a coupleyears? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua >> University? > > Hi Andrei, > > Thanks for your suggestion and reminder. I will discuss about this > with several mobile service providers and universities which had > shown me their interests on this topic before. > > Best regards, Xiaohu > >> >> Andrei >> >> Xu Xiaohu wrote: >>> Hi Tom and all, >>> >>> I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a >>> >> new charter >>> item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using >> hierarchical HITs >>> from the commercial deployment perspectives: >>> >>> First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the >>> ID-to- >> Locator> mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs >> could be run in a >>> hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility >> management service >>> systems could be operated by different countries and different >>> >> operators> with clear administrative domain boundaries and >> reasonable business models, >>> just like the telephone number space in the telephone network >> and the home >>> address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the >> existing DNS >>> infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to >> say, HITs of >>> the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding >> AAAA RRs in >>> the existing DNS infrastructure. >>> >>> Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition >>> >> for HIP. For >>> instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via >> provider-owned >>> HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP >>> network) >> since the >>> hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the >> contrary,> ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there >> is no reasonable >>> business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices >> for such flat >>> identifiers. >>> >>> There has been some proposals and presentations discussing >>> about hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows: >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02 >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02 >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04 >>> >>> By the way, we have implemented the RANGI >>> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which >>> >> uses a >>> hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with >>> delegation-oriented >> structure.> Hope we could have a chance to show the >> implementation details and >>> verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec >>> City. >>> >>> Best regards, Xiaohu >>> >>> >>>> -----邮件原件----- 发件人: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org >>>> [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] 代表 Henderson, Thomas R 发送时间: >>>> 2011年6月6日 22:49 收件人: hiprg@irtf.org 抄送: >>>> 'irtf-chair@irsg.org' 主题: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >>>> >>>> With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG >> charter item >>> since >>>> the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future >> directions of the >>> RG. >>>> Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try >>>> to >> define some >>>> new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will >>>> play >>> relative to >>>> the WG. >>>> >>>> These work items should ideally satisfy the following >>>> criteria: - is the research area clear and relevant for the >>>> Internet >> community and >>> for >>>> HIP in particular? What are the expected outcomes and >>>> impact? - will the RG foster work that would not be done >>>> otherwise? >> For instance, >>>> participation drawn from more than a single institution or >> country. Can >>> we >>>> try to identify individuals for this anticipated >>>> participation? >>>> >>>> We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I >>>> >> would like >>> to see >>>> whether we can start identifying some topics on the list >>>> before the >>> meeting. >>>> - Tom _______________________________________________ hiprg >>>> mailing list hiprg@irtf.org >>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6FjY4ACgkQP7jp0uceFkRk5QCgoI4dpcCzkZaw+Juw9fAbNEw6 55oAnjmvAmfYR21qpep732YgCA4YAw+I =PrM2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Xu Xiaohu
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Andrei Gurtov
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- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Wendong WANG
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Andrei Gurtov
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- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Zhen Cao
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