Re: [Hipsec] Status of WG items

Ari Keranen <ari.keranen@nomadiclab.com> Thu, 20 September 2012 13:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Status of WG items
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Hi Julien,

On 9/13/12 6:41 PM, Julien Laganier wrote:
> Hi Ari,
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Ari Keranen <ari.keranen@nomadiclab.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 7/6/12 3:37 AM, Julien Laganier wrote:
>>>
>>> - 5203bis (registration) can IMHO be republished as is as I haven't
>>> seen any issue with the original version. If people agree I could
>>> republish it and we could WGLC it...
>>
>>
>> I posted some comments about 5203bis earlier this year but back then there
>> was no discussion regarding them. So, here goes again.
>>
>> Some of these have been discussed also earlier on this list (these relate to
>> requirements discovered with the native NAT traversal draft [1]), but I'll
>> have them all here for easier reference.
>>
>> Currently, the registrar has no way of indicating that it would otherwise
>> accept the registration, but it's currently running low on resources. For
>> this purpose, a failure type "Insufficient resources" could be added to the
>> "registration failure types".
>>
>> Registration using authentication with certificates could be part of the
>> registration RFC. Currently, only authentication with HI is defined, but
>> knowing all HIs beforehand is not practical in many cases.
>>
>> Text in section 3.2. of [1] could be used as a basis for this (just replace
>> "HIP' data relay" with "registrar"). Also, if this authentication mode is
>> added to the draft, failure type "Invalid certificate" should be added for
>> the failure case.
>>
>> [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal
>>
>> Should we have these in the registration draft?
>
> These suggestions sound reasonable to me.

OK, great. If you add these to the registration draft, I can update the 
native NAT traversal draft accordingly.


Cheers,
Ari