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Re: Report on preliminary decision on TLS 1.3 and client auth

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Fri, 25 September 2015 10:19 UTC

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In message <8F0BC939-B0BD-43F6-AB41-7676B5B94054@gmail.com>, Yoav Nir writes:
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>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
>> 
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>> In message <5603745A.7020509@treenet.co.nz>, Amos Jeffries writes:
>> 
>>> Ah. Sorry I seem to have misunderstood yoru meaning of "provides the
>>> proof that a server needs to regard the entire session to be authentic"
>>> to mean the cert was connection-wide.
>> 
>> I would like to remind people that, contrary to widespread assumptions,
>> HTTP doesn't have "sessions".
>> 
>> Sessions are typically implemented by mistaking (groups of) connections
>> for a session, or by means of opaque unstandardized cookies.
>
>Why do you call cookies unstandardized?

Cookies are standardized just fine.

What I tried to say above is that we don't know which cookie
identifies the session.

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