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Re: Report on preliminary decision on TLS 1.3 and client auth

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Sat, 26 September 2015 07:15 UTC

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In message <20150926063738.GC26560@1wt.eu>, Willy Tarreau writes:

>Between reverse-proxies and servers, or between servers, client certs
>are much more common and perfectly fit the purpose : guarantee to each
>side that they're talking with whom they believe they're talking.

Which only works by defining "session" to be "connection".

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