Re: [hybi] I-D Action:draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol-01.txt

Please don't add versioning to the protocol.  Versioning is a
anti-pattern for the web.

Adam

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Greg Wilkins <gregw@webtide.com> wrote:
> Ian,
>
> thanks for this first draft, and I hope it indicates a new phase of
> progress for the WG.
>
>
> I'll be updating Jetty to support this draft immediately, but we have
> an issue that there is no version information in the handshake.  Thus
> in order to support this version of the draft, I risk breaking support
> for previous versions, which is difficult as there are already
> deployed experimental applications in the wild, interacting with real
> clients with browsers beyond the control of the deployers.
>
> Currently user-agent is not sent, so I can't even use that to
> determine what version of the draft to use.
>
> I know a standard version header is not widely accepted, but could we
> implementers perhaps agree a temporary header just during this draft
> phase. Something like:
>
>  Sec-WebSocket-Draft: 1
>
> Unless there are howls of complaint, I'll implement my server to look
> for such a field and to use it as a hint when selecting the parser to
> use.
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> On 2 September 2010 08:45,  <Internet-Drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the BiDirectional or Server-Initiated HTTP Working Group of the IETF.
>>
>>
>>        Title           : The WebSocket protocol
>>        Author(s)       : I. Fette
>>        Filename        : draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol-01.txt
>>        Pages           : 57
>>        Date            : 2010-09-01
>>
>> The WebSocket protocol enables two-way communication between a user
>> agent running untrusted code running in a controlled environment to a
>> remote host that has opted-in to communications from that code.  The
>> security model used for this is the Origin-based security model
>> commonly used by Web browsers.  The protocol consists of an initial
>> handshake followed by basic message framing, layered over TCP.  The
>> goal of this technology is to provide a mechanism for browser-based
>> applications that need two-way communication with servers that does
>> not rely on opening multiple HTTP connections (e.g. using
>> XMLHttpRequest or <iframe>s and long polling).
>>
>> Please send feedback to the hybi@ietf.org mailing list.Note
>>
>> This draft is meant to reflect changes in direction in the HyBi
>> working group.  There is not yet consensus on everything in this
>> draft.  Specifically, details about the framing are still under
>> discussion, however this draft is much closer to what the group is
>> discussing than the previous draft.  There have also been proposals
>> to change the handshake, so the handshake is also not in a final
>> form.
>>
>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol-01.txt
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>
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