Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry
"Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat)" <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com> Mon, 01 June 2015 13:39 UTC
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I think the result is shaping up well, and the response should be sent. On the question of who signs it: As I have stated elsewhere — I think it’s great to get the IETF’s input on the response, but I don’t see the IANAPLAN WG as having an operational position to commit the IETF on such matters as timeframes for implementation. And if it’s not a WG matter, I don’t understand why the WG Chairs would sign it. (That’s not a repudiation of content of message, that’s a question of role, IMO). Leslie. — ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- On 29 May 2015, at 11:49, Russ Housley wrote: > Thanks for pulling all of the pieces together. I t looks good to me. > > I think it should be signed by the IANAPLAN WG Chairs. They were the > ones that received the letter. > > Russ > > P.S. Should we put the letter and the response in the liaison system > to make them easy to find? > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> > wrote: > Eliot: > >> I like the text below modulo one issue: the IANAPLAN proposal did not >> specify how the IAOC would implement the requested changes (whether >> through the SLA or another side agreement). I would prefer that we >> stuck to that approach and not name which agreement the changes go >> into (SLA or a one-time supplemental agreement). > > Ok. > > Trying to take this and Ted’s comments into account: > > “The IETF is ready today to take the next steps in the > implementation of the transition of the stewardship. > In our case, most of the necessary framework is already > in place and implemented in preceding years. > > The remaining step is an updated agreement with > ICANN which addresses two issues. These issues are > outlined in Section 2.III in the Internet Draft > draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-09.txt: > > o The protocol parameters registries are in the public domain. It > is the preference of the IETF community that all relevant parties > acknowledge that fact as part of the transition. > > o It is possible in the future that the operation of the protocol > parameters registries may be transitioned from ICANN to subsequent > operator(s). It is the preference of the IETF community that, as > part of the NTIA transition, ICANN acknowledge that it will carry > out the obligations established under C.7.3 and I.61 of the > current IANA functions contract between ICANN and the NTIA > [NTIA-Contract] to achieve a smooth transition to subsequent > operator(s), should the need arise. Furthermore, in the event of > a transition it is the expectation of the IETF community that > ICANN, the IETF, and subsequent operator(s) will work together to > minimize disruption in the use the protocol parameters registries > or other resources currently located at iana.org. > > The IETF Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC) has > decided to use an update of our yearly IETF-ICANN Service Level > Agreement (SLA) as the mechanism for this updated > agreement. They have drafted the update and from our > perspective it could be immediately executed. Once the updated > agreement is in place, the transition would be substantially > complete, with only the NTIA contract lapse or termination > as a final step. > > Of course, we are not alone in this process. Interactions > with other parts of the process may bring additional > tasks that need to be executed either before or > after the transition. First, the ICG, the RIRs, > and IETF have discussed the possibility of aligning > the treatment of IANA trademarks. The IETF Trust > has signalled that it would be willing to do this, if > asked. We are awaiting to coordination on this > to complete, but see no problem in speedy > execution once the decision is made. From our > perspective this is not a prerequisite for the transition, > however. > > In addition, the names community has proposed the > creation of a 'Post Transition IANA' (PTI). If the existing > agreements between the IETF and ICANN remain in place > and the SLAs discussed above are not affected, the IETF > ransition would take place as described above. That is > our preference. If the final details of the PTI plan require > further action from the IETF, more work and community > agreement would be required. The timeline for that work > cannot be set until the scope is known.” > > Jari > _______________________________________________ > Ianaplan mailing list > Ianaplan@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ianaplan
- [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Russ Housley
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Russ Housley
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry John Curran
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Russ Housley
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Tobias Gondrom
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry John Curran
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Marc Blanchet
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Bob Hinden
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Russ Housley
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Jefsey
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Milton L Mueller
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Russ Housley
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Eliot Lear
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Benson Schliesser
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Benson Schliesser
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Benson Schliesser
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Bob Hinden
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Jari Arkko
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- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Leslie Daigle (ThinkingCat)
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Benson Schliesser
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Jari Arkko
- Re: [Ianaplan] Time frame inquiry Jefsey