Re: [Iasa20] draft-haberman-iasa20dt-recs-00.txt

[Stephen Farrell <[e-mail]>]

Thanks for the DT's efforts on this.

I guess I understand how the DT got there, but I'm a bit
disappointed that so far, we only seem to have addressed
the "should the IETF incorporate" aspect of the iasa2
work.

Anyway, my initial take on the draft is:

- IASA++ seems the obviously right option to me.
  The other two structures have either a "pro" or
  a "con" (depending on one's opinion) which is
  that the IETF becomes an incorporated entity.
  I think the effort to reach consensus on that
  topic could de-rail the iasa2 work and we'd risk
  losing the increased transparency etc. we want to
  get. So that'd just leave IASA++ as being the
  only feasible option.

- I didn't find section 6 clear or convincing but
  it's also hard to see how one might document
  such an analysis at this point. Maybe when I
  read it more closely or we see a presentation in
  Prague, it'll be clearer, but as of now, the DT's
  analysis isn't that clear to me. It could be that
  I change my opinion about IASA++ if/when I do
  understand the DT's analysis better, but I'd be
  surprised if that were the case.

Cheers,
S.

On 07/07/17 17:29, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:
> Greetings IASA 2.0 enthusiasts!
> 
> The design team has just published a preliminary -00 draft in terms of
> analysis of three options. Find it below.
> 
> We will have a one-hour meeting at the beginning of the IASA 2.0 slot
> (3:50-4:50 local time) on Tuesday of IETF week. Jon Peterson will chair and
> send along an agenda. (We are reserving the second hour of that slot for an
> in-person design team meeting.)
> 
> Note that this is very early work, but far along enough that we would like
> to focus the discussion during the meeting as follows:
> 
> Feedback on the set of identified possible paths forward or options is the key
> question. Are any potential missed options? Also, feedback on the implications
> of options being considered would be welcome.
> 
> Best wishes, Joe
> 
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> Date: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:21
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-haberman-iasa20dt-recs-00.txt
> To: Jari Arkko <[e-mail]>, Leslie Daigle <
> [e-mail]>, Brian Haberman <[e-mail]>, Jason
> Livingood <[e-mail]>, Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]>,
> Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]>
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> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-haberman-iasa20dt-recs-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Cindy Morgan and posted to the
> IETF repository.
> 
> Name:           draft-haberman-iasa20dt-recs
> Revision:       00
> Title:          IASA 2.0 Design Team Recommendations
> Document date:  2017-07-07
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          23
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-haberman-iasa20dt-recs-00.txt
> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-haberman-iasa20dt-recs/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-haberman-iasa20dt-recs-00
> Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-haberman-iasa20dt-recs-00
> 
> 
> Abstract:
>    The arrangements relating to administrative support for the IETF were
>    created more than ten years ago.  Since then, there has been
>    considerable change in the tasks and in our own expectations.  The
>    IETF community has discussed these changes and the problems they
>    cause.  The community has some sense of the properties they expect
>    from future arrangements, including structural and organizational
>    changes, changes to volunteer and staff personnel resources, and
>    transparency changes.
> 
>    This document is a product of a design team, focused on providing
>    additional information to the community about solution options, as
>    well as supporting analysis of the implications of those options.  To
>    be clear, the community is responsible for adopting any
>    recommendations or making any final decisions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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