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Matthew Ford <ford@isoc.org> Sat, 15 July 2017 08:32 UTC

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> On 15 Jul 2017, at 10:26, Livingood, Jason <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> wrote:
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> On 7/14/17, 5:47 AM, "iasa20 on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" <iasa20-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hence my question: what were the conditions and dynamics that led to the IAOC becoming effectively an executive committee rather than the oversight committee intended? If we don't understand that, it will probably happen again.
> 
> The design team discussed some thoughts as to why this is the case and how to avoid it. This may be best addressed by a question at the microphone during the meeting. 
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> My personal sense, which I am happy to expand upon at the meeting (and will make little sense in 1 sentence), includes issues around job definition & scope, transparency, background/experience & goals of the people/group selecting for the roles, background/experience of the candidates, and more. 
> 

The history of the IASA experience is certainly interesting and relevant. In addition I think there are also natural human tendencies at work here, so to the extent that any future structure depends upon the clear demarcation of roles between strategy and operations, we probably need to think carefully about mechanisms that could help prevent the natural tendencies diluting original intent or at least support roleholders as they attempt to maintain alignment between practice and theory.

Mat

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