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Re: [Iasa20] draft-haberman-iasa20dt-recs-00.txt

Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> Wed, 12 July 2017 20:18 UTC

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Ted,

> My take with that combination of experience is that
> the IAOC could not suddenly revert to a more strategic approach right now, because many
> of the processes and committees it has are built around the current way of working.

Agreed.

> I do think that it could move to a more strategic approach (as, IASA++ suggests)
> if  a new set of support systems were in place.  The trick, and it will be trick, is making
> sure that the change goes with the adoption of the support systems *because it will
> not be an inherent part of that change*.  Some combination of personnel changes (like
> dropping the number of ex officio members), new instructions to NomCom, and very
> active recruitment of outside talent will be required.  That is likely true, honestly, whatever
> structural changes we put in place.

Makes sense. Thanks.

Jari

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