Re: [Icar] an early review experiment
"Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@mcsr-labs.org> Thu, 20 May 2004 04:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Icar] an early review experiment
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I may be going through a phase, but I would prefer to see ICAR reviews with no special status. My dream (and perhaps the dream of others) is that ICAR reviews are accessible from the document tracker. If this happens, it seems trivial enough for the IESG, or whomever we finally decide actually approves publication, to e-mail the ICAR reviewers and ask if there are still outstanding issues in the reviewer's opinion. If "no", the working group resolved the issues. If "yes", the IESG knows which end of the haystack to start looking at. If the review comment seems important enough to "discuss" (in the IESG sense of the word), it will be resolved, later and more painfully than was necessary. My experience has been that reviewees were either thrilled to have someone carefully reading their document, or were so detached that (I am not making this up) a document that hit the IESG telechat agenda within the last two months referred to keywords ala RFC 2119 AS A DRAFT: [KEYWORDS] Bradner, Scott, "Key Words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Levels", draft-bradner-key-words-03.txt, January, 1997. - so no one had looked for nits in the document in the last seven years. Either way, I don't think making a document editor agree with me is necessary or desirable. YMMV, of course. Spencer > > + How binding are early, cross area review comments on authors / > editors / WGs? > > + one end of the spectrum would be that ICAR-type comments must be > addressed before the document moves forward > > + the other end of the space seems to me to be that the ICAR-type > reviews are just like any other review that comes in from a > community member (i.e., no special status) _______________________________________________ Icar mailing list Icar@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/icar
- [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- RE: [Icar] an early review experiment Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Pekka Savola
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Melinda Shore
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Melinda Shore
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Alex Rousskov
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Pekka Savola
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Allison Mankin
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Alex Rousskov
- [Icar] ICAR charter scope and review management Alex Rousskov
- [Icar] Re: ICAR charter scope and review manageme… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Melinda Shore
- Re: [Icar] Re: ICAR charter scope and review mana… Alex Rousskov
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Alex Rousskov
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Icar] an early review experiment Mark Allman