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Re: [ietf-smtp] [Proposal] confusing parts of the mail system, was 250-MARKDOWN

"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Sun, 13 January 2019 18:40 UTC

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>>  Yeah, I think I've seen MTAs that do that.
>
> They do. At submission, security gateway, and final delivery.

I see that Thunderbird will store attached files on Box or similar 
services. although it just edits the link into the text of the message 
rather than making it a separate MIME part.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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