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Gene Hightower <gene@digilicious.com> Fri, 11 January 2019 20:51 UTC

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In <74e22977-8ee8-c762-4882-b56e5911430e@digilicious.com> I write:

>> Question is, is BINARYMIME doable?  Or a lost cause?

On 10/01/2019 11.15, John Levine wrote:

> After 18 years, I think the answer should be obvious.

Yes: we need just a few more years before the old guard dies off and
makes way for generational change.

I'm keeping the faith!

On 10/01/2019 11.15, John Levine wrote:

> At modern network speeds, base64 encoding is good enough for the
> file that people attach to mail messsages.

I pay per mebibyte for my (Google Fi) data plan.

> If you have something big enough that BINARYMIME would make a
> difference,

Gmail says “SIZE 157286400” — 150 mebibytes.  I, too, set that same
limit for my mail.

> sensible people use something like dropbox and send a link.

That should tell you that the SMTP protocol fails compared to HTTP
which supports binary transfer.

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