Re: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on draft-klensin-rfc2821bis

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Wed, 25 June 2008 10:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on draft-klensin-rfc2821bis
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Stewart Bryant wrote:
> 
>>
>> At least three ADs believe that the examples should be changed
>>
> 
> I agree with them.
> 
> Use of any identifier outside the example space may cause real harm to
> the owner, where that harm may range from serious harm (technical
> and/or financial)  to mild embarrassment.
> 
> If anyone wants to use an identifier outside the example space, then to
> protect both the owner  of the identifier and the IETF, the author really
> needs to provide the IETF with evidence of  written authorization to use
> it for this purpose.
> 
> In the case of this draft, have the owners of the identifiers
> been contacted by the author, and do they agree to this use?

You are aware that the same examples have been in a published RFC for 
over seven years?

BR, Julian
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