Re: On diversity in the NomCom

[John C Klensin <[e-mail]>]

--On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 16:39 -0700 Rob Sayre
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Area Director and WG chair time is a real cost, and I would
> advocate reducing that commitment as well. Perhaps the IETF
> should no longer publish Informational or Experimental RFCs.
> Internet-Drafts are good enough for that.

FWIW,...

Of course, the relatively new rules requiring IETF consensus for
Informational and Experimental documents in the IETF stream take
us in exactly the opposite direction.

I also note that many other SDOs publish informative,
non-standard, documents in the form of technical reports and
that things we would call Experimental (or our original
definition of Proposed Standard) show up as things "for trial
use".  So, again, fwiw, we are not the only, or even the first,
body to conclude that formal review, consensus, and publication
of such documents is a practical necessity.

It may be the the most effective way to reduce AD and WG Chair
workload and assorted overhead costs --if we really want to do
that-- would be to take a careful and critical look at how much
we can, and want to, actually get done, holding ourselves to a
higher standard about what work gets chartered/ authorized and
far more quickly killing off WGs that are not productive.  I
vaguely remember a proposal by a group of people including Dave
Crocker along those lines long ago and wonder if it would be
worth finding and giving another look.

But we are getting fairly far from the "diversity" topic and the
Nomcom.

    john


   john