Re: On diversity in the NomCom

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 14 July 2020 20:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: On diversity in the NomCom
To: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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On 14-Jul-20 18:59, Melinda Shore wrote:
> On 7/13/20 10:41 PM, Rob Sayre wrote:
>> I was able to attribute at least 63 of 143 volunteers to just four
>> companies.
> 
> Might be interesting to look at how well that reflects meeting
> attendance.  My guess is that it's disproportionate (having over
> 500 people at a 1200-person meeting come from those 4 companies
> "feels" incorrect) but that's just a guess.

That might be true, but big companies are more likely to support
sustained participation, making their employees more likely to
meet the 3/5 rule.

I'd also like to challenge the assumption that the result is
necessarily bad.

If the IETF was a more typical SDO, we'd be funded by membership
subscriptions and we might well have voting weighted by membership
categories. So big companies would have proportionate power. For
good reasons, we don't do that. Nevertheless, the fact is that big
companies can (and do) send more people, and provide more sponsorship
(such as hosting meetings, and funding Area Directors), than small
companies. If they didn't get something back for that, they would
complain, or simply withdraw their resources. The chance to have
two people in the NomCom is quite a small "something" IMHO.

   Brian