Re: On diversity in the NomCom

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Wed, 15 July 2020 08:51 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 01:51:01 -0700
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Subject: Re: On diversity in the NomCom
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 1:57 PM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nevertheless, the fact is that big
> companies can (and do) send more people, and provide more sponsorship
> (such as hosting meetings, and funding Area Directors), than small
> companies. If they didn't get something back for that, they would
> complain, or simply withdraw their resources.
>

This seems like one of those things that might not "return to normal".

IETF work seems to be proceeding fine without people flying long distances
to sit in a hotel conference room and look at their laptops.

thanks,
Rob