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Re: Google.com hops on the DMARC bandwagon

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 30 April 2014 17:22 UTC

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: Tony Hansen <tony@att.com>
Subject: Re: Google.com hops on the DMARC bandwagon
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Tony Hansen <tony@att.com> wrote:
    >>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:16 PM, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>> I see that google.com now publishes a DMARC policy of p=quarantine.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> While this won't bounce people off lists like p=reject does, it
    >>>>> still makes it fairly pointless to post to this or any other list
    >>>>> from a google.com
    >>>>

    >> Ahh... so we can't expect to see Vint in any of the ietf discussions
    >> in the near future!

    > Anyone with mail servers that look at the dmarc settings won't see
    > postings. People behind mail servers that do NOT look at the dmarc
    > settings will see the postings just fine.

@google.com people will get kicked off mailing lists due to bounces
From other @google.com people.

So, you can have Vint on the list, or Lorenzo, or Harald, but not both :-)

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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