Re: "Early rebid" (was Re: letters from Ted & Alissa)

Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> Thu, 04 July 2019 13:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: "Early rebid" (was Re: letters from Ted & Alissa)
To: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>
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From: Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net>
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On 7/4/2019 9:25 AM, Job Snijders wrote:
> Dear Mike,
>
> On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 09:20:46AM -0400, Michael StJohns wrote:
>> On 7/3/2019 6:14 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>>> As usual, I'm employed by ISOC but not speaking for it.
>> It's pretty hard to not take the above with a grain of salt. You're not just
>> an ISOC employee, but the president and CEO and as such have a lot of sway
>> over the funding ISOC provides to the IETF. I can't imagine the I*  and
>> community not giving your statements more weight than they might another
>> generic IETF participant just because you say you're speaking for yourself.
>> It feels somewhat passive/aggressive too but that may just be me.
>>
>> I can't remember Lynn or Cathy making a "not speaking for" statement in the
>> time they were in your job, but this is the third from you in last day or
>> so.  I wondering if it's really appropriate for you to do so given the
>> relationships between the two organizations and your position?
> I'd like to ask you for clarification on the above, do you mean to say
> that the self-declaration is unnecessary, or that Andrew should refrain
> from participating in a discussion three times a day?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Job


I mean that it's impossible for Andrew to separate himself from 
President/CEO of ISOC and as such he probably shouldn't be posting 
emails which wouldn't be appropriate if they came from the President/CEO.

Later, Mike