Re: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on draft-klensin-rfc2821bis

Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> Tue, 17 June 2008 09:29 UTC

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From: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>
To: Brian Dickson <briand@ca.afilias.info>
Subject: Re: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on draft-klensin-rfc2821bis
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Brian Dickson <briand@ca.afilias.info> writes:

> Here's my suggestion:
>
> List 2606 in the informative references, and footnote the examples used 
> to indicate
> that they are "grandfathered" non-2606 examples.
>
> So, in text that previously read "not-example.com", it might read 
> "not-example.com [*]",
> with the references section having "[*] Note - non-RFC2606 examples 
> used. Please read RFC2606."
>
> Something along those lines, should hopefully be enough to keep both 
> sides happy, and resolve the DISCUSS,
> and hopefully both set a suitable precedent *and* make moot the appeal.

I think this sounds like a good compromise, and it does improve the
document quality IMHO.  John, would this be an acceptable addition to
the document?

Thanks,
Simon
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