Re: Qualitative Analysis of IETF and IESG trends (Re: Measuring IETF and IESG trends)

Lakshminath Dondeti <ldondeti@qualcomm.com> Thu, 26 June 2008 11:38 UTC

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On 6/25/2008 4:28 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
> 
> --On Thursday, 26 June, 2008 09:41 +1200 Brian E Carpenter
> <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> ...
>> And of course, individual ADs
>> have to think carefully whether a given issue is or is not
>> worthy of a DISCUSS, and sometimes they get it wrong. But
>> that will always be true, however we tune the process and
>> procedures.
> 
> Brian,
> 
> While I agree with this, I also believe that there have to be
> effective safeguards against bad judgments prevailing for too
> long.  And I believe that those have largely slipped away from
> us... unless we believe that making changes, unvalidated by WG
> or mailing list consensus, simply to get a DISCUSS removed is
> the right way to get to "high quality, relevant technical and
> engineering documents...".

Indeed that is the issue!

regards,
Lakshminath

> 
>     john
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