Re: IETF and open source license compatibility (Was: Re: yet another comment on draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt)
Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> Thu, 12 February 2009 19:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: IETF and open source license compatibility (Was: Re: yet another comment on draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:17:02 -0500
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Dear Jari et al.; On Feb 12, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > Harald, Margaret, and Simon, > > Harald wrote >> actually that's intended to be permitted by RFC 5377 section 4.2: > > and Margaret wrote: > >> However, I don't think that anyone actually believes that the IETF >> will track down people who copy RFC text into comments and sue them >> or attempt to get injunctions against them. >> >> (2) Even if the IETF did try to sue you for copying sections of RFC >> text into your source code comments, they'd almost certainly lose > > So it seems that we actually do have at least some ability to deal > with comment-style use of RFCs fragments in free software. Simon, do > you see any residual issues that we need to solve, or were your > concerns in areas other than comments? > I am not a lawyer, but I don't believe that the IETF has no legal existence and thus cannot sue. Any "IETF" suits would have to come from the Trust. If there are issues, the Trust can solve them by warranting that they will not sue under given conditions, as is being done with the Trust Legal Provisions. Marshall > Jari > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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- Re: yet another comment on draft-housley-tls-auth… Simon Josefsson
- Re: yet another comment on draft-housley-tls-auth… Stephan Wenger
- Re: yet another comment on draft-housley-tls-auth… Bob Jolliffe
- Re: yet another comment on draft-housley-tls-auth… Rich Kulawiec
- Re: yet another comment on draft-housley-tls-auth… Simon Josefsson
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- Re: IETF and open source license compatibility (W… Tony Finch
- Re: IETF and open source license compatibility (W… Jari Arkko
- Re: IETF and open source license compatibility (W… Marshall Eubanks
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- Re: IETF and open source license compatibility Harald Alvestrand
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