Re: [107all] Update on IETF 107 Vancouver and COVID-19

[Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 05/03/2020 à 11:49, Meetecho IETF support a écrit :
> Il 05/03/20 11:39, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ ha scritto:
>> Is not the same for the microphones that we usually have in the rooms?
> 
> Those mics are connected to an audio mixer board which provides hardware 
> echo suppression. And those mics are directional ones designed for 
> professional use.

They are directional ok, but why do I have to speak close on it?  That 
is the problem: the need to speak close on it.

They are professional yes.  They are Senheiser I believe.

The pop screen made of foam for a handheld senheiser is MZW1.  It costs 
17Eur.

One needs something like that for personal use, and throwable, like 
paper handkerchief.

Alex
PS: fyi, there are microphones that pick sound without speaker having to 
produce sound as virbations of air (so no risk of positive loop).  I 
think of those for the Scientist.  But they are more expensive.

> 
>> Even if those microphones need to be muted, and we should go next to 
>> them, but use our one phone, I guess it should work.
> 
> Again, it's a matter of phone mic + room speakers. The room mics don't 
> play any role. The phone speaker doesn't play any role as well.
> 
> I'm 100% sure this won't work.
> 
> Alessandro
> 
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
>>
>> El 5/3/20 11:36, "ietf en nombre de Alessandro Amirante" 
>> <[e-mail] en nombre de [e-mail]> escribió:
>>
>>      No. It's not a matter of phone speaker. It's a matter of phone *mic*
>>      capturing whatever comes out of the *room* speakers.
>>      Alessandro
>>      Il 05/03/20 11:27, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ ha scritto:
>>      > Unless you mute your phone speaker?
>>      >
>>      > Regards,
>>      > Jordi
>>      > @jordipalet
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > El 5/3/20 10:58, "ietf en nombre de Alessandro Amirante" 
>> <[e-mail] en nombre de [e-mail]> escribió:
>>      >
>>      >      This is a *very* bad idea. It would generate a lot of echo 
>> as your voice
>>      >      will be captured again from your phone's mic when it comes 
>> out from the
>>      >      room's loudspeakers.
>>      >
>>      >      Alessandro
>>      >
>>      >      Il 05/03/20 10:49, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ ha scritto:
>>      >      > We don't need that!
>>      >      >
>>      >      > Everybody has a phone with microphones.
>>      >      >
>>      >      > We just need a small app that works in iPhone and 
>> Android, that connects to the Meetecho, because this is already 
>> connected to the audio!
>>      >      >
>>      >      > Maybe even this app is not needed if you can use the 
>> standard remote participation from the cellular device (I never tried).
>>      >      >
>>      >      > We don't need even to queue in the Mic, the chairs can 
>> give the voice to each one in sequence (
>>      >      >
>>      >      > Regards,
>>      >      > Jordi
>>      >      > @jordipalet
>>      >      >
>>      >      >
>>      >      >
>>      >      > El 5/3/20 10:31, "ietf en nombre de Alexandre Petrescu" 
>> <[e-mail] en nombre de [e-mail]> 
>> escribió:
>>      >      >
>>      >      >
>>      >      >
>>      >      >      Le 05/03/2020 à 04:45, Spencer Dawkins at IETF a 
>> écrit :
>>      >      >      > Warren,
>>      >      >      >
>>      >      >      > I'm seeing "I can help" messages on this list, 
>> which is admirable but
>>      >      >      > may not be the best way to meet this need. Could 
>> you chat with our
>>      >      >      > friends on the IESG and ask how they want to 
>> handle chairs who
>>      >      >      > (potentially suddenly) need onsite help?
>>      >      >      >
>>      >      >      > It seems like we need something where everyone 
>> can keep track of who is
>>      >      >      > helping who, and something we can keep up to date 
>> throughout the week..
>>      >      >      > Even a wiki page would be an improvement over 
>> mail messages with an
>>      >      >      > off-topic subject line.
>>      >      >
>>      >      >      If there were a wiki page, then I would like to put 
>> something in there:
>>      >      >      if there is a f2f meeting, with the usual 
>> microphones, then use
>>      >      >      microphone screens ('anti-pop') that are 
>> individual, and probably one use.
>>      >      >
>>      >      >      This could help as much as the other measures with 
>> hands, sanitizers, etc.
>>      >      >
>>      >      >      Alex
>>      >      >
>>      >      >      >
>>      >      >      > Best,
>>      >      >      >
>>      >      >      > Spencer
>>      >      >      >
>>      >      >      > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:17 PM Paul Wouters 
>> <[e-mail]
>>      >      >      > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>      >      >      >
>>      >      >      >     L
>>      >      >      >     On Mar 4, 2020, at 19:33, Warren Kumari 
>> <[e-mail]
>>      >      >      >     <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>      >      >      >
>>      >      >      >>
>>      >      >      >>
>>      >      >      >>
>>      >      >      >>     Simply because the chairs cannot make it 
>> does not automatically
>>      >      >      >>     mean that the WG meeting is cancelled -- WGs 
>> chairs can ask the WG
>>      >      >      >>     secretary, or appoint a temporary secretary 
>> or just ask an
>>      >      >      >>     in-person participant to do the physical 
>> onsite things, like
>>      >      >      >>     bluesheets, pushing the big red button, etc..
>>      >      >      >
>>      >      >      >     I agree and I will happily volunteer to chair 
>> a meeting where needed.
>>      >      >      >
>>      >      >      >     Paul
>>      >      >      >
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